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Posted: November 16, 2014, 9:21 AM
Decided to try and reduce the dosage over time starting with 10 a day and reducing by 1 a week, I know it's gonna take time just hope I can do this, wish me luck friends, thinking of u all it's helping me get through this...
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Posted: November 16, 2014, 11:32 AM
If you really want to change your life have you thought about attending NA meetings?
I know I needed more than "luck" and self-will to get & stay clean/sober. I needed a program of recovery that worked and I (and millions of others) found that in AA/NA. All the best. Bob R -------------------- Serenity Prayer God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage to change the things I can, And the wisdom to know the difference. Free copy of AA's Big Book on-line: http://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/alcoh...olics-anonymous Free copy of NA's Big Book on-line: Copy & Paste coastalcarolinaarea.org/literature/books/b_t.pdf AA's HOW IT WORKS: Copy & paste www.aa.org/assets/en_US/p-10_howitworks.pdf NA's HOW IT WORKS: http://www.na.org/admin/include/spa...0it%20Works.pdf ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity. ---there are those too who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders but many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be honest. ... I need AA more than it needs me. --- I fight recovery tooth and nail.... I'm not used to being sane, it just doesn't seem natural. ...... According to the great spiritual teachers, ignorance does not result from what we don’t know; ignorance results from what we think we do know. ---Some think that 2+2=5 and believe it. Some know that 2+2=4 and can't stand it. --- I didn't have a very happy childhood but I sure am having a long one ! ---Dry since 1989 working daily on getting/staying SOBER. ---If you want to drink, that's your business ...If you want to quit, that's AA's business. ... Tell me, I'll forget; ... Show me, I'll remember; ... Engage me, I'll understand. ---Most problems are psychological. Most solutions are spiritual . "If we try to change our ego with the help of our ego, we only have a better-disguised ego." --Richard Rohr WWBWD (What Would Bill W. Do) | ||
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Posted: November 16, 2014, 12:55 PM
Hi thanks 4 your advice and I will look into it.. I really do want 2 stop this now it's hard as I've managed to keep this a secrete 4 so long.. It's getting harder now as I have lost a lot of weight and friends and family are commenting on how I look.. It's time I got hold of this and really got my life back.. I've been in and out of hospital and I know in my own hart if I don't stop this it will kill me before long.. I just need to stay strong and away from the NP I know I will need help and I am going to make an appointment with my gp tomorrow this cannot go on it's got to stop.. Thanks again for your support I will look for help.. I can still remember the first time I took these evil things they took away the pain and made me fill so good.. What a wrong move that was 7 years down the line and there controlling my life.. I will beat this I've got too.. Thanks again and I know I've got to stop living a lie I'm only fooling myself...
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Posted: November 16, 2014, 6:37 PM
1st day without taking Np was gonna try and reduce dosage but gonna try and go without.. Don't fill 2 bad guess this is just the start of a long road..been looking up NA meetings and support found 1 local to me.. gonna call them in the morning along with GP I'm determine to get of this.. Legs and arms r starting 2 ache and feeling like I'm getting cold sweets is this normal can anyone tell me.. Any advice would b great...
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Posted: November 16, 2014, 9:08 PM
Hi junior.......I am probably in no position to offer u any advise as I am only 28 days clean of NP.....I was taking between 30 - 60 a day of those little evil pills........all I can tell u is the first two weeks were really hard.......day four onwards was bad with trying to keep my anxiety under control........I was put on seroquel which helped me tremendously.........the physical symptoms I could deal with and only lasted maybe 7 -10 days.......I dealt with the restless legs by using compression stockings and bandaged over the top of those very tightly.......the insomnia for me wasn't to much of a problem due to taking the seroquel.......how ever this medication is not for everyone.......it is a strong medication and doctors are very reluctant to prescribe it.......I found the hardest bit is what to do with myself since that took up a big part of my life.........meetings for me are essential.......I go to the AA ones as I have not heard great things about the NA meetings in my area........I can honestly tell u that a few months ago I felt like there was no hope for me and that I was going to end up dead from taking NP...I really couldn't make it past four days before I caved.....however I just kept coming back until something in my head clicked.......don't really know what happened.........I think I had had a gut full of feeling like death warmed up.......I to have spent time in hospital......once I was near heart failure........all I can say is it does get better..........it is a roller coaster ride but if u hang on long enough.......things will improve.........I am still struggling but the pills no longer consume my every thought........and physically I can't describe just how much better I all ready feel.....
Just keep coming back......I have been on this board since January........wasn't able to get it together until 28 days ago but I just kept coming back | ||
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Posted: November 17, 2014, 2:49 AM
Hey Junior,
It's really hard, s***ty and awful quitting. As you probably already know, there is nothing nice about it. One rewarding aspect though is living your life clear headed and with purpose again. I don't feel like I can really give advice, as every person has their own challenges and approaches their own sobriety differently. I was on a relatively small amount of nurofen plus (a regular unnecessary amount all the same), and it's a constant daily battle not to succumb. It's great though that you've come to the realisation that this way of life is no longer working for you, and that you are prepared to take steps to do something about it. You'll find great support here, so check in whenever you feel like you want to. Ellen | ||
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Posted: November 17, 2014, 10:01 AM
Hello and welcome! You are going to have to change everything. You will have to want to be clean more than you want to be high. You will have to want this so bad that you are willing to take suggestions and follow through. Withdraws are pure hell, but you only have to do it one time if you want to. Keep coming back!
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Posted: November 17, 2014, 11:40 AM
hi junior - its a hard road you are going down- but you can do it- reach out to people- especially the people on this site - they know how to win this battle- listen and learn from them- they have been a great help to me in my battle with pain meds- so i know what you are going through- if you want it - you can do it- trust me it is worth it - stay strong - stay clean from pills - just for today- let tomorrow worry about itself- good luck junior, and keep talking -
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Posted: November 17, 2014, 2:20 PM
Hi everyone..
Thanku so much for your words and support... Today has been really hard I woke at 5am this morning and the 1st thing I thought of was them horrible things... I made a promise to myself that I wouldn't touch them... I was in and out the loo before I left for work which u must all know what I'm saying? It's not been a great day to say the least... Around mid day I started to fill very unwell and not myself it must of showed as my work colleges keep asking if I was ok... Like I've said no one knows anything about this and it's a surprise no one has put 2 and 2 together over the years as I am in a chemist everyday and would hate to think what I've spent on these... Anyway around mid day I just couldn't function and yes I did I had too to get through the day I fill so ashamed and sick inside I done it went and bought a pack and yes a hand full of tablets later I started to fill what I would say is normal... I'm gonna need a lot of help with this and I really want out of it now its not the person I want to be anymore and I know this is going to kill me if I don't stop... I got hold of my GP and the earliest he can see me is Monday coming so I'm just gonna take it a day at a time till then I went all day yesterday without NP if I can do just that again tomorrow I think I'm getting somewhere slowly... U may think different but I really am trying so hard it's controlling me I need help with this... I fill like I have let myself down today but I'm not going to give up I don't want this life anymore... Thinking of u all and your support Sorry I fell over today but I'm not gonna Stop trying... This is just the start of a long Road for me... Junior.. | ||
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Posted: November 17, 2014, 2:49 PM
Get to as many NA meetings as you can. Get phone numbers from the members there.
Get a copy of the NA Big Book and read it. Borrow literature from the members/group and read it. Buddy up with other NA newcomers and go to meetings together .. talk together. PRAY !! ... then talk to another recovering addict. All the best. Bob R -------------------- Serenity Prayer God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage to change the things I can, And the wisdom to know the difference. Free copy of AA's Big Book on-line: http://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/alcoh...olics-anonymous Free copy of NA's Big Book on-line: Copy & Paste coastalcarolinaarea.org/literature/books/b_t.pdf AA's HOW IT WORKS: Copy & paste www.aa.org/assets/en_US/p-10_howitworks.pdf NA's HOW IT WORKS: http://www.na.org/admin/include/spa...0it%20Works.pdf ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity. ---there are those too who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders but many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be honest. ... I need AA more than it needs me. --- I fight recovery tooth and nail.... I'm not used to being sane, it just doesn't seem natural. ...... According to the great spiritual teachers, ignorance does not result from what we don’t know; ignorance results from what we think we do know. ---Some think that 2+2=5 and believe it. Some know that 2+2=4 and can't stand it. --- I didn't have a very happy childhood but I sure am having a long one ! ---Dry since 1989 working daily on getting/staying SOBER. ---If you want to drink, that's your business ...If you want to quit, that's AA's business. ... Tell me, I'll forget; ... Show me, I'll remember; ... Engage me, I'll understand. ---Most problems are psychological. Most solutions are spiritual . "If we try to change our ego with the help of our ego, we only have a better-disguised ego." --Richard Rohr WWBWD (What Would Bill W. Do) | ||
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Posted: November 17, 2014, 2:51 PM
hi junior, i lost count of the amount of relapses i had when trying to give up drink- i was in rehab three times was hospitalised twice and the madness still went on- very few people quit first time for good- i tried three or four times to get off tramadol and codiene- the worst thing you can do is beat yourself up over taking the pills today- if you went to the doc and he told you that you had to come off the pills slowly and in controlled manner would you feel guilty about taking the pills ? - sometimes your body is not physically capable of functioning without the pills- i was on my back for four days when i quit tramadol, i could not physically have gone to work- i am not giving you an out- you have to take responsibility for your recovery, but it is medically recomended that you dont cold turkey opiods- my GP told me i was a fool for doing it and read me the riot act- so you may have to do it by tapering or get another drug to take short term to help you- do not give up- you are doing ok, its a hard, hard road but you are on it now with the rest of us- you are not alone - keep reaching out- and DO NOT GIVE UP - you CAN do this Junior- STICK with us, we cant do this alone, good luck Junior
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Posted: November 18, 2014, 1:43 PM
Got through the day without taking anything... Have 2 c how it goes 2morrow as I just couldn't do it yesterday after going all day Sunday without... Still trying and won't stop it's something I've got 2 beat now... Thanks again for all your advice I am taking it all in NA meeting next I'm really scared what it's going 2 be like but something I've got 2 do... Doctors Monday things r moving I will beat this...
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Posted: November 18, 2014, 2:03 PM
sounds like you are doing all the right things , you just gotta hang in there it will be rough for a while but you can make it, just remember if you fall, its what you decide to do when your down there that matters- get the hell back up again Junior we have all done it- i have handles on my shorts i fell over that much- keep at it you CAN do this - keep reaching out - stay strong - HOPE is what we all live for - the HOPE that our lives will get better - and it DOES - NEVER GIVE UP HOPE best of luck Junior
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Posted: November 18, 2014, 2:49 PM
junior, getting clean/sober was the scariest most painful thing I have ever done but with the help of AA/NA and a H.P it is quite do-able, in fact it is guaranteed in The Big Book in Chapter 5:
"Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path." http://www.aa.org/assets/en_US/p-10..._howitworks.pdf You will be tempted a thousand times to quit, run, change things, give up .... but if you share those thoughts with another recovering addict/alcoholic (and pray) you will continue to improve. For me, commitment to the meetings and fellowship was of great importance. I need the people. All the best. Bob R -------------------- Serenity Prayer God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage to change the things I can, And the wisdom to know the difference. Free copy of AA's Big Book on-line: http://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/alcoh...olics-anonymous Free copy of NA's Big Book on-line: Copy & Paste coastalcarolinaarea.org/literature/books/b_t.pdf AA's HOW IT WORKS: Copy & paste www.aa.org/assets/en_US/p-10_howitworks.pdf NA's HOW IT WORKS: http://www.na.org/admin/include/spa...0it%20Works.pdf ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity. ---there are those too who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders but many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be honest. ... I need AA more than it needs me. --- I fight recovery tooth and nail.... I'm not used to being sane, it just doesn't seem natural. ...... According to the great spiritual teachers, ignorance does not result from what we don’t know; ignorance results from what we think we do know. ---Some think that 2+2=5 and believe it. Some know that 2+2=4 and can't stand it. --- I didn't have a very happy childhood but I sure am having a long one ! ---Dry since 1989 working daily on getting/staying SOBER. ---If you want to drink, that's your business ...If you want to quit, that's AA's business. ... Tell me, I'll forget; ... Show me, I'll remember; ... Engage me, I'll understand. ---Most problems are psychological. Most solutions are spiritual . "If we try to change our ego with the help of our ego, we only have a better-disguised ego." --Richard Rohr WWBWD (What Would Bill W. Do) | ||
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Posted: November 19, 2014, 12:31 PM
hi Junior, let us know how you are getting on, good or bad, keep checking in- you will find no one judging you here - we have all failed to often in the past-
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Posted: November 19, 2014, 5:13 PM
Hey junior, if u have read over my posts u can see I was finding it hard to get it together.......I came back on line in June but was posting before that as of January ( Had to get my posts deleted due to personal reasons ). So it took me time and many falls along the way.......I just never gave up trying.......by listening to the people on this board and reading how they did it.......as well as attending meetings which I feel are essential......I came to figure it out......don't be afraid of your first meeting......I can remember my first way back last year and there were only five people there!!! .......so couldn't just blend in......it was a great meeting.....they were just happy to see a new face.........I attended a few meetings back then but guess I wasn't ready.......the hard meeting I found was when I returned 9 months later with my tail between my legs......but I had nothing to be worried about they embraced me with open arms as was just glad to have me back.......
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Posted: November 20, 2014, 4:38 PM
HI Junior - let us know how you are doin - check in Junior let us know good or bad-
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Posted: November 21, 2014, 7:33 PM
Hi everyone, still not taken any NP had to take time of work really not feeling well that's why I've not been on here, ill have to come back later really not good at the min..
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Posted: November 21, 2014, 9:25 PM
hi junior - im so glad your hanging in there- well done- this is the worst part but it will pass in a few days- you just gotta get through this- dont give up now- you should be proud of yourself - keep reaching out and keep posting-
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Posted: November 22, 2014, 5:30 PM
i hope your doing ok junior-
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