Your Brain On Opiates
Posted: August 1, 2016, 7:16 AM


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Thanks for your quick reply. I'll take your advise. I will stop methadone while it's still easy.
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Posted: August 30, 2016, 12:58 PM


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I know this is an old topic, but there is quite a bit of mis-information in the original post. We don't actually grow more receptors..we have a finite amount. What actually happens is receptors become less sensitive to the release of dopamine and this is why it then takes more to get the same result..not because the brain "grew" more receptors.

Here is a great, not too technical article that is a much more accurate picture of what happens when we use opioids.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...les/PMC2851054/

Just copy and paste this link in your browser. It is a very good read!

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Posted: September 7, 2016, 6:15 AM


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Cheers for your advise
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Posted: September 27, 2016, 6:56 PM


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Thank you Tim. I have been feeling so devoid of happiness and pleasure lately. Im 4 months clean from vicodin and I feel myself just going through the motions. Never happy. Don't want to clean or do anything. I feel like being alone all the time. I avoid sitting with my family at all costs. I just want to get through this. The thought of taking a pill to feel better crosses my mind constantly and the fact that I cant or won't makes me more unhappy.
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Posted: September 27, 2016, 7:05 PM


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Are you attending NA meetings?

I was like you in 1989 - hadn't drank/used for months but feeling worse.

Please read the 12 Steps of AA/NA-
The first 1/2 of Step 1 covers the alcohol/drugs -
The other 11 1/2 Steps enable me to live clean/sober and enjoy it.

http://www.nawol.org/2012_12steps.htm

Anyone can quit using/drinking .. if you are like me the trick is staying clean and living.

All the best.
Bob R



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Serenity Prayer
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.


Free copy of AA's Big Book on-line: http://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/alcoh...olics-anonymous

Free copy of NA's Big Book on-line:
Copy & Paste coastalcarolinaarea.org/literature/books/b_t.pdf


AA's HOW IT WORKS:
Copy & paste www.aa.org/assets/en_US/p-10_howitworks.pdf


NA's HOW IT WORKS:
http://www.na.org/admin/include/spa...0it%20Works.pdf


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--- driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity.

---there are those too who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders but many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be honest.

... I need AA more than it needs me.

--- I fight recovery tooth and nail....
I'm not used to being sane, it just doesn't seem natural.


...... According to the great spiritual teachers, ignorance does not result from what we don’t know; ignorance results from what we think we do know.

---Some think that 2+2=5 and believe it.
Some know that 2+2=4 and can't stand it.


--- I didn't have a very happy childhood
but I sure am having a long one !


---Dry since 1989
working daily on getting/staying SOBER.


---If you want to drink, that's your business
...If you want to quit, that's AA's business.


... Tell me, I'll forget;
... Show me, I'll remember;
... Engage me, I'll understand.


---Most problems are psychological.
Most solutions are spiritual .


"If we try to change our ego with the help of our ego, we only have a better-disguised ego."
--Richard Rohr


WWBWD (What Would Bill W. Do)
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Posted: September 27, 2016, 7:51 PM


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I am not attending meetings. I guess for the embarrassment factor and the fact that I have a long term ex and his wife who are very active in AA that I don't want to deal with. I have always been a private person and I have a very hard time with people knowing my business. Does the 12 step program really work? You felt as I did? Just wanting the world to go away and leave you alone to wallow in your own self pity? I just want that feeling of happiness again.
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Posted: September 27, 2016, 8:45 PM


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Work The Steps and good things happen.

The Promises of AA. The spiritual life is not a theory, we have to live it
http://www.singaporeaa.org/PDFs/The...AA_Promises.pdf

How does that sound ?? Does that sound like what you want ?
You'll have to work for it .. work The Steps

We get to do our addiction/alcoholism our way.
We DON'T GET to do recovery our way - we need direction.

Bob


--------------------
Serenity Prayer
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.


Free copy of AA's Big Book on-line: http://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/alcoh...olics-anonymous

Free copy of NA's Big Book on-line:
Copy & Paste coastalcarolinaarea.org/literature/books/b_t.pdf


AA's HOW IT WORKS:
Copy & paste www.aa.org/assets/en_US/p-10_howitworks.pdf


NA's HOW IT WORKS:
http://www.na.org/admin/include/spa...0it%20Works.pdf


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--- driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity.

---there are those too who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders but many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be honest.

... I need AA more than it needs me.

--- I fight recovery tooth and nail....
I'm not used to being sane, it just doesn't seem natural.


...... According to the great spiritual teachers, ignorance does not result from what we don’t know; ignorance results from what we think we do know.

---Some think that 2+2=5 and believe it.
Some know that 2+2=4 and can't stand it.


--- I didn't have a very happy childhood
but I sure am having a long one !


---Dry since 1989
working daily on getting/staying SOBER.


---If you want to drink, that's your business
...If you want to quit, that's AA's business.


... Tell me, I'll forget;
... Show me, I'll remember;
... Engage me, I'll understand.


---Most problems are psychological.
Most solutions are spiritual .


"If we try to change our ego with the help of our ego, we only have a better-disguised ego."
--Richard Rohr


WWBWD (What Would Bill W. Do)
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Posted: November 17, 2016, 5:40 AM


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Histojen...Sorry you are struggling! If you aren't keen on AA/NA may I suggest either Smart Recovery, Rational Recover or Woman for Sobriety ? These are NOT 12 step programs and use scientifically backed techniques that many who don't jive with the spiritual/religious portion of 12 step programs find much more helpful.

This post has been edited by lolleedee on November 20, 2016, 2:07 PM
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Posted: May 1, 2017, 10:07 AM


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Hi,

Can I ask please, what is the source of this information Tim ? Quite a lot of the information is contrary to my understanding of the way it all works. You say it was not written by a Doctor, what are the qualifications of the author ?

There have been a lot of posts by people who seem to have accepted this information as accurate without any further questioning.

I would like to say, it makes a massive difference what a person believes, especially when trying to do something as difficult as going through Wd's.

Therefore think it is important to realise the need for accuracy before living the rest of one's life automatically believing something just because it is written down.

It can make a world of differance between success and failure !

So in other words, what evidence do you have to back up the claims in your post please ?

Also, why is it obvious that " facts " have been used as you said ?

Thanks,

Respectfully: Questioner

This post has been edited by Questioner on May 1, 2017, 10:09 AM
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Posted: October 21, 2019, 10:04 AM


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Joined: August 26, 2019



Sugar may be one of the worst things one can do for withdrawal or PAWS.

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