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Posted by: jane July 26, 2012, 8:42 PM
I have been addicted to nurofen plus for nearly 5 years.It is my dirty secret , my demon and it controls every part of my life. About a year ago I got really sick and was diognoised with stomach ulsers and accute enemia , at this point i was taking up to 90 tabs a day.My sickness was a direct result of my addiction.tests revealed that my liver was not yet damaged. I was put on iron tabs and nexium for the ulsers and slowly started feeling better, I cut down to 60 tabs of nurofen plus a day , saw a doctor regularly and was determined to kick the habbit. As i cut down the withdrawals were unbearable and therefore once I started to feel better I stopped seeing my doctor, my liver was ok so i thought i was ok to keep taking. My husband knows nothing about it , it is my secret and i hate it. It has now come to a crunch as I have moved to a small town and the only two chemists have twigged on and now refuse to supply me. Some days I travel 200km just to get my fix. I have 3 beautiful kids and I know i am playing with fire and my life but I cant stop! reading all your stories makes me feel like i an not alone but I do want my life back. this drug rules me . Any advise on whar to do?

Posted by: Josh July 26, 2012, 10:44 PM
Jane,

Welcome to the first step of recovery!!!! You've already passed one of the most difficult hurdles to get through, admitting that you have an addiction and can't stop.

I'm recovering from a two year addiction to synthetic weed, I've been posting daily on that forum but in the end were all addicts and we need to help each other.

I'm not familiar with the withdrawal symptoms from your drug, but for me the withdrawals were what kept me coming back. On the tail end of my abuse I was using just to feel normal, I truly felt I was merely "medicating" just to get through the day without getting sick. It was nightmarish. I hated myself, which made me further use.

What I had to do was plan my own detox, literally whipe my schedule and have zero responsibilities for four days... I stayed at home alone with my detox kit (see my posts in the synthetic weed section for more details) lock the doors and go toe to toe with that terrible demon. I puked, shook, sweated, had explosive diarrhea, but finally made it through. After that extended weekend, when I made it through the worst and came out the other end, I felt as exhillerated as if I had climbed mount Everest. I have had zero relapses after a hard two years of abuse. I'm now going through the mental withdrawals, which is really just a depressive state that should fade in another week or two according to other posters. It eases my heart to know that there is an end to these feelings and it's close.

I don't know the specifics of codeine withdrawal but I think they can be much more severe than mine and probably more dangerous... I don't say that to scare you, I just want to warn you in case you need to ween off instead of going cold turkey. I've heard heroin withdrawal can be lethal if one tries to quit cold turkey after heavy use. Be careful and hopefully someone with more experience with your drug will chime in.

I'll be here for moral support and to help ease your physical and mental withdrawal symptoms, you can lean on me. I still go through rough times, lll lean back, we need to do this together!

Do you have the discipline to ween yourself off slowly, or will you just use continually until you run out?

I couldn't ween myself off, I tried. If I had any access to the drug I was going to smoke until I passed out. No matter what I told myself, I would abuse if I had it. I was forced to go cold turkey. Luckily it worked!

I had to cut all ties with any affiliation to the drug. I will never go to that side of town for anything ever again. It's blacklisted in my mind forever.

Have you considered telling your doctor? He/she may be able to prescribe you something that will ease the withdrawals. I understand if you want to keep it under wraps and stay anonymous, that's how I am too. It will be harder probably, but there's a chance you might be able to get through hell before the devil even knows your there.

With your children you might not be able to detox at home, you might need to get a hotel room for a few days that offers good room service.

In the end we all invited our demons in, it's up to us to tap him on the shoulder, punch it in the face and tell it to get the hell out of your life forever. It won't like that, it will fight back, it WILL hijack your thinking. Don't listen to it, just take the pain and know every second is a second closer to freedom.

I wish you the best of luck and will be happy to be part of your support system as a fellow anonymous addict. I will pray for you.

Are you spiritual by the way? I was not overly spiritual, didn't go to church or anything, but God really helped me through this one. I won't be all preachy though, especially if that isn't your thing. I'll still pray for you no matter what!

Posted by: Josh July 27, 2012, 11:56 PM
Jane,

How are you holding up? I'm worried about you! Don't feel like you can't write if your still using, you have the desire to quit and that's what matters. I relapsed after my first post but stuck with it and now I'm on the other side. I'm here if you need me!

Posted by: jane July 29, 2012, 9:47 PM
Firstly thankyou so much for your support and advise.
I took a major step after my last post and when I went into a chemist to buy the nurofen plus I told them i was an addict and needed to wean off it, instead of some lame period pain or back pain bulls*** . I was amazed at the support I got from them, I was not treated like some dirty addict like I thought i would be.

I also went back to the chemist that had refused me supply and stressed concern, she was fantastic ! within 2 hours she phoned me and had researched it, called a local doctor and made me an appointment.
She stressed that cold turkey was a bad option as withdrawals can be horrific and would more than likely make me go back on. She suggested I should wean off it but doing so through a doctor so as to get off the nurofen plus and take something without the iboprofen in it which is the harmful component of the drug.
That appointment is later today and I am actually looking forward to it, as I am so so ready to face this head on and get rid of this life controlling drug.
I feel like today is the first day of my new life.
In saying this do not think for one minute that I think this is going to be easy. I know I am going to have some sort of withdrawal while cutting down. I am also really scared that whatever the doctor gives me wont give me the same effect.
I no longer get any high from nurofen it just keeps me feeling normal, i just know without it I feel like I am going to die.
I am so happy that you have kicked your habbit, you give me hope and strength and I am so proud of you. I just hope that one day soon I can do the same.

Posted by: Josh July 30, 2012, 12:52 AM
Way to go Jane!!!

That took a lot of courage to tell your doctor/ chemist about your addiction. You've dedicated yourself now; it's only a matter of time before this will be just a bad chapter in your past.

Please keep us posted on how you do, good days and bad. I'm sure you will get into some very stressful moments ahead, we are here to support. I had nights where I literally cried myself to sleep, but I still knew I was winning because I wasn't using.

I'm so proud of you for taking that bold and very wise decision. Life really is much better on the other side, I promise!

Posted by: jane July 31, 2012, 8:52 PM
Ha Josh

I have been put on straight codeine phosphate tablets 30mg - 8 x 3 times a day. They are not the same effect as the nurofen plus and i feel only just ok, I thought I would feel better as I am taking the same amount of codeine as before. Had a s*** day yesterday as was my first . Woke this morning and went backwards - took my codeine tablets plus 20 straight nurofen tablets I had in medicine cabinet, not happy with myself at all. Will be good for rest of day.
So tempted to just go get my usual hit to feel a little buzz again but I have to do this . cutting down to 7 x 3 times a day next week and so on until I am free.
Will keep in touch

Posted by: Josh July 31, 2012, 9:38 PM
Jane,

I totally understand, mornings can be rough! Yesterday was terrible for me but I made it through. My coping mechanism has been distraction; anything that can take my mind off of reality. I just have to keep that in check too, or else I could relapse into an escapist addiction. (it happens, Ive seen it) basically cross addicting to something else.

Stay strong and don't beat yourself up, I was harsh on myself in the beginning but luckily a fellow forum member helped me realize that. You need to heal yourself, not harm.

I had to get rid of all the "stuff" before I could break through to the other end of withdrawals. It's just WAAAY to easy to fall prey to addiction in a small moment of weakness, as you found out. Don't beat yourself up, I did the same thing. If your doctor gave you something to take the edge off but not give you a buzz, it might be time for your moment of bravery...

Toss all the neurofin plus. Don't give it conscious thought, or else the demon will rationalize its way back into your soul. Toss it. Make it hard to get. Make it SOO hard to get that it would take hours if possible. That will give your conscious, REAL self time to see that your just having a moment of weakness and snap out of it.

I had that happen yesterday. I had an honest to God desire to smoke, and I don't know how it would have played out if I still would have had some in my garage. Luckily I placed major obstacles in my way, so I snapped out of it and watched TV instead.

Only you know when it's time to toss those pills, but it should be sooner rather than later I would think. That's only if your chemist / doctor already has you on something to fight the withdrawals.

It's a lot harder to fight addiction when the substance still lives under the same roof as you. I was not strong enough. I doubt there are many that are.

Good luck! Stay strong and face forward, that relapse is behind you. Let it go and move on. You can't get to the future if your living in the past.



Posted by: Josh July 31, 2012, 9:56 PM
Count your victories too!

Sorry I went down in the dumps for a second there, had a stressful call while I wrote that last post to you.

So anyways.... You went a whole day without nurofin plus? Great job! I relapsed too, (not recently but when I was first quitting like you) don't sweat it just get back on the horse and keep riding. Pat yourself on the back for making it 24.... Everyone here know just how hard those hours can be. I think this site even has 1 day milestone markers. Next time you get to 24, go there and OWN in. You deserve it.

Posted by: jane August 1, 2012, 11:41 PM
Thanks for your words of wisdom, very helpful.
Well this morning I had had enough and had a very weak moment. I took off in car in direction of where i knew I could get my hit ( nuforen plus and no crappy substitute) got half way there stopped the car and turned around. Ya Ya a moment of strength.
Called my doctor and made an appointment, went in and told her how the codiene tablets were not working and truth of my relapse, NO MORE LIES.
She was very understanding and got in touch with a drug addiction specialist who advised her to put me on endone????? do you know anything about this one?
Anyway here we go again, I guess all trial and error.
I dont mind something that will take the edge off and not give me a buzz, but dont want to feel that crap that I sneak back to my old ways.
If you dont mind me asking what country do you live in? As this site seems to cover the world over. I live in Australia.
Thanks again it is so nice to have someone to talk to, I cant talk to my husband about it as he has been through it before with me and I got off with his help. However he has made it very clear that if it happened again our relationship would be over. He is my all and everything and me to him . I do love him dearly, he is a great man, dont get me wrong. We just have different views.

Keep in touch cheereo

Posted by: Josh August 2, 2012, 12:21 AM
Jane,

DONT TAKE THOSE!!!!! That's Oxycodone!!!! I'll explain more in a sec, I just wanted to stop you if you haven't already taken them. I'll post again right after this.

Posted by: Josh August 2, 2012, 12:26 AM
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Addiction-Substance-Abuse/Quick-Question-Please--Oxycodone-vs-Tylenol-w-Codeine--Please-help/show/432068

Take a look at this: more to come, but the consensus if you read all the posts is that Oxycodone (also known as endone) is lot stronger than codeine. More to follow:

Posted by: Josh August 2, 2012, 12:36 AM
Some more info:

http://www.novusdetox.com/oxycodone-addiction-detox.php

More to follow:

Posted by: Josh August 2, 2012, 1:04 AM
Jane,

What a perfect time to tell you what country I'm from, as it fits in perfectly with our current dilemma. I'm in the United States! Not to sound juvenile but I think it's just awesome to be talking to someone from Australia!

Anyways, why that fits is because we here in the USA have a BIG problem with Oxycodone, or as most people call them, "Oxy's". (if theyve got a street nickname that's already a telltale bad sign)

Oxycodone is highly addictive. The name for it in Australia is Endone, as you now know. I'm assuming they started here first and made their way to Australia so you all haven't heard the bad dependency issues with it, but just about anyone here in the USA knows that your flirting with addiction when you get your first bottle. Do a quick google search on oxycodone addiction/withdrawal and you will be swamped by horror stories.

Let me caveat all of this with: I'm not a Doctor and I should not be telling you to go against his/her professional opinion... But it's my unprofessional opinion that your doctors an idiot.

I could be wrong and I would greatly appreciate if anyone who knows more on this subject could chime in, but that just looks like a baaaad idea to me. It's like trying to ease cocaine withdrawal by starting to use heroin. (as an exaggeration)

I've been prescribed Oxycodone after I had surgery, I don't see how anyone can NOT get high off of it. To be honest I loved the stuff! Not good if your trying to quit an opiate addiction, though.

I was not an addict at that time and when my prescription ran out I just left it at that. I did want to get more but I would have had to lie about pain to get more and just never bothered. As I've said on my post I never had a problem with addiction... Until one day I did.

I've also had a co worker who was completely bombed on Oxys after recovering from a car crash. Two in-patient addiction treatment centers later and he's still addicted. BAAAAD stuff.

Wow, this actually makes me remember more of when I had that bottle of Oxys a few years ago... When I started feeling better I remember I stopped taking them, just to save them for when I wanted a slight buzz! No joke, I actually did that. They were just recreational back then.

Oxycodone has become known as a designer drug here in the USA with a very high street value. It's mostly known to be a "rich kid and soccer mom" drug, like cocaine used to be. It's possibly the most widely abused prescription drug on the USA, definitely in the top ten if I had to guess.

Once again, I'm not a doctor, nor should I be telling you to go against what they are saying, but it's my guess that it just hasn't blown up there yet and they might not have known what they were recommending.

Highly addictive.

Posted by: Josh August 2, 2012, 1:35 AM
And congratulations on stopping the car!!! Way to go Jane, keep it up!

Your on the right track, I just didn't want you to fall into another hole with Oxys.

Maybe just ask your doctor about why they recommended endone (Oxy), it's very possible they are seeing a side of this puzzle I'm not. Maybe switching from one opioid to another is good for withdrawals? I don't know, it doesn't make sense to me but I'm not a doctor. It's ultimately your decision and I'll be here for you no matter what. If you do take the endone just go easy...

Good luck!

Posted by: Christie August 4, 2012, 6:39 PM
Hi Jane, i am exactly the same as you . I have been addicted for four years. It ruins your life. I am 34 yo with 2 children. I went cold turkey 3 weeks ago and haven't looked back. The major thing was support from my partner. Withdrawal is agonizing , but I figured it was better than dying from an ulcer. I took some anti anxiety medication, because the anxious feeling is terrible. I also wore pressure socks to help with leg pain. If I can do it, any one can!

Posted by: Josh August 5, 2012, 9:57 AM
Jane,

How are you holding up? I'm worried about you!

I hope I didn't overstep my boundaries by recommending you not use endone (oxycodone). I've just seen the effects of its addictive properties and didn't want you to have to go through that as well. Keep us posted, even in relapses! We're here for you.

Posted by: Yogi August 6, 2012, 3:40 AM
Hi Josh and Jane

Jane - I know about this addiction and have been through/going through it still.
I think suboxone would have been better than endone. At least the endone doesn't have all the crap in it like n+ does. I'm on suboxone which has really helped. It's another thing to wean off but I can totally function normally and there are no major side effects.

Cheers
Yogi

Posted by: jane August 7, 2012, 11:38 PM
Hi Josh / everyone

Sorry have not been on line for a while as do not have internet at home due to no service and have to come to library to use it.
Well thank you firstly for your advise on oxedone , I did take it as had not been on line to heed your warning. Totally wacked me out and also made me feel breathless so threw it in the bin . Not enough time to get addicted and good thing too as you say .Next thing I am going to say may not suprise, but then went out and bought Nurofen plus, sorry just so sick of feeling like s*** or wacked out from one drug to another. I just went back to my comfort zone ( nurofen plus) . One good thing is that I have cut down to 40 tabs per day instead of 60. Going to doctor today to fess up.
At one chemist I got a very friendly and helpful lady who had delt with "people like me" before, she also sugested suboxone said it makes you forget or more block out the feeling of need for your drug. Anyway I will suggest to my doctor, maybe I need to change doctors as she just seems to be doing a trial and error with me - I am not a lab rat.
So wow josh you live in USA that sounds exciting, I have never been there but would love to one day, maybe when my kids get older. So strange talking to someone on the other side of the world.
Will try to log on every few days, but if you dont see me here for a little while please dont abandon me as I will come back.
Talk soon

Posted by: jane August 12, 2012, 8:45 PM
Well after trial and error on lots of switch over drugs to get me off nurofen plus, I am now on a weaning programe and taking reduced amounts of Nurofen plus each week.
Already down to 40 tabs per day instead of 60 so feel I am going ok.
will keep you posted as to how I go.

Posted by: Josh August 22, 2012, 11:49 AM
Jane,

Great job weening yourself off!!! I'm terribly sorry I havent written sooner, I no longer feel any residual effects of my drug abuse and I think my mind actively chooses to forget or disregard those last two terrible years. I feel almost as if I've moved on with my life and don't want to retrace those painful steps. But that doesnt give me the right to abandon my fellow recovering addicts, I'm sorry for that.

How are you holding up now? Any more progress? Relapses? Good luck and keep posting, your chronicling of how you recover can be a guiding light to other addicts even years in the future. Keep writing and good luck! I know you'll make it through to the other side, let me tell you, it's wonderful!

Posted by: jane August 29, 2012, 8:59 PM
Hi Josh,
Well firstly congratulations for totally kicking your habbit. A new chapter in life / a new life.
I have been to see the D & A people and a specialist doctor who deals with this on a daily basis. As my progress has been slow and my stomach ulcers are getting worse due to the nurofen plus they have decided to give Suboxine ( something like that) a try and I have to hang out as long as I can today and get really craving it before I go and have my first dose. From what I have read and been told it sounds like a wizz bang instant cure???? Cant be that easy I know .
It must be so nice on the other side, not having a drug rule and control your entire being?
I really look forward to being there. Well done and hoorah to you.You are so dedicated,you must be a vey caring and nice person. I thought once I am off it I would think twice about coming on here anymore, as I would not need it anymore. What a selfish thought, as it is when you are on the other side that you could possibly be of most help to others. Thankyou for bringing that to my attention.

Well starting to really feel like I need a hit now so may wander over to my chemist and try this stuff.

Stay in touch and so will I.

Posted by: viper_2k5 September 7, 2012, 7:48 PM
Hi Jane,

I'm actually coming off neurofens now as well however this is my second time. When i first came off this stuff i was taking about 50 a day. This time round is a fair bit less. I successfully came off neurofens following seeing a doctor that helped me get onto the suboxone program. This was my saving grace and will be doing this again before coming off the suboxone and doing a home detox. If you have any questions please drop me a line :) I am really impressed how you fessed up and sought help. It was and has been my secret as well until i told my family. They were amazingly supportive and helped with the home detox :)

Hope to hear from you!

Best of luck with everything.

Posted by: florence October 16, 2012, 10:59 PM
Hi Guys
I have been reading your posts about Nurofen Plus and I too have this problem. I think this is becoming quite a big problem in Australia and other countries that sell Codeine over the counter. I live in Brisbane and it's so easy to get your hands on it. 95% of pharmacys don't ask to see any photo I.D so it's really easy to give false names and addresses to them and they are none the wiser. I really think there needs to be a crack down on this drug as it is ruining a lot of lives out there. I really wish it would become prescription only medicine.
I started taking Nurofen plus a few years ago for lower back pain and the occasional bad headache and I really liked the feeling it gave me. It not only got rid of the pain really fast but it made me feel calm, relaxed and at peace with the world around me. Codeine and other opiates are very good at this.
Anyway I first started taking it for pain but then after a while I started taking the pills when there was no pain, I just wanted to get that little high that I could get. I started off with 2 pills a day for a little while and then before I knew it, my tolerance to the drug had just skyrocketed and before too long I found myself taking anywhere between 24 - 30 pills in a day.
I didn't want to tell anyone about my addiction as I was really ashamed of it so the only way out that I could see was to go overseas for a while, so that I couldn't get my hands on the drug. So I went overseas for a total of 6 weeks. The first week was pretty hellish as I was dealing with the withdrawals but after about 3 days the worst of the withdrawals was over and I could enjoy the rest of my holiday to rest and de-stress from my life as a drug addict at home. I told myself that when I returned home from overseas I would stay away from the drugs and get some counselling. The sad news is that I haven't done either and I am back on them again. I am currently taking about 12 a day. I am planning on getting some counselling next week as I can't go through what I did last time. Jane I wish you luck in dealing with your addiction. I hope you can stay away from these awful things.

Posted by: Thomas November 10, 2012, 6:12 PM
To the Nplus addicts,
I have been on these drugs since 2001 after having a back injury, at first 6 a day was my dosage. As time went by this grew to 60-75 a day, in 2009 my stomach blew apart with 2 peptic ulcers requiring surgery within 2 hours of the bursting. It felt like someone shot me in the guts with a pistol, the most agonising pain i've ever felt. without the surgery death was going to take place within 6 hours i was told. 5 hours in surgery and 11 days in intensive care followed, i have a 30cm scar right down the middle of my stomach, after leaving hospital the pain management they put me on was great for 14 days then was told to go cold turkey! We all know what that feels like, so you guessed it back to Nplus. This time i was knocking back 30 per day, felt great ulcers fixed, felt like superman again. then other side affects started to appear. the only way i told myself to rid myself of this crap is to take 1 less per day as i lost hope with doctor's advice. 88 days later i finally had no desire left or physical want to take anymore, 3 weeks after that my body began to naturally create dopamines to make me feel normal, no aches or pains or scattered brains thoughts, so hang in there Jane cos if you want to go clean its going to take a while and you'll have bad days were you'll feel like giving in, 1 last tip don't subsitute 1 drug for another you'll just get hooked on the new drug, remember good things come from hard yakka. Good Luck! Sorry for my spelling.

Posted by: Jonathan December 2, 2012, 1:07 AM
Hello to everyone out there.

I recently lost my precious wife to Nurofen plus addiction. They will kill you eventually if you don't stop...believe me I have seen the end of a NP addiction. Her cause of death of course was not recored as NP but she was admitted to hospital and within 3 days was dead from multi system organ failure, pneumonia and a failing heart....you will die too if you don't stop. She firstly developed stomach ulcers and I was none the wiser. Over a period of 12-18 months I believe she was consuming increasing quantities of this insidious drug.She developed kidney problems soon thereafter and was hospitalised for that and within 2 months was admitted to hospital again and immediately put in intensive care.

Despite the best efforts of the doctors and nursing staff she passed away suddenly before me and our children. It was a scene and a tragedy I will never ever forget.

Please get help or you too will eventually die a very very sick person.

Posted by: Aussie_Guy December 3, 2012, 6:41 PM
Hi All,

After reading this I just couldn't help myself from responding. To be honest I can't even remember when I first started regularly taking Nurofen Plus and other codein-based OTC medicine. My guess is I have been addicted for 3/4 years. I have attempted to come off twice and failed. Both times I got through the physical withdrawals but the silent killer was the psychological issues for me. I suffer from anxiety/depression and N+ was my way of trying to get through the day.

I'm in my second day of recovery and working full time. Alone in my home as my partner is away, and it is tough stuff! She doesn't know either, but I just miss her so much during such a terrible time. I decided to use the week whilst no one was home to do quit so I didn't have to face questions and deal with people, let me tell, it is hard!

Generally I was taking between 20 and 30 pills per day, as all of you said - just to medicate and get through the day!

All I can say is for those coming off this terrible stuff, hang in there, with perseverance and support it can be done. And I'm going to try and kick this devil for the 3rd and hopefully final time!

Cheers!

Posted by: Skuyla December 23, 2012, 6:03 PM
I've been a migraine suferer for all my adult life and discovered nurofen plus about 5 years ago. For the last 2 and a half years at least I've taken them every day. It started out at two at a time. Gradually turned to three which quickly progressed to 4 skipped 5 to six and about a year later 8 at a singe dose three or four times a day. I do recall the first time I took them when I wanted to numb the emotional pain and stress my boss was causing me, They became my crutch, my dirty little secret. I'm still at the same job, still under stress, still using the pills, although I can honestly say that nine times out of ten it's used for pains rather than the numbing feeling I get. For the last few months I've been getting intense pains in my stomach, I suxlect it might be an ulcer so instead of going tl my gp to admit my problem I take cramp pills and more np to take away the pain. I've lied to family, I've created false accounts at different chemists but slowly am trying t come off them. I'm current.y down to 5 3x a day after being on 6 3x a day for the last month ( no more 8s). I'm on leave from work for two weeks so any withdrawal symptoms can be hidden. My biggest worry is that I'll need them (and the benylin codiene that I've also started taken) the minute I go back to work. Can anyone tell me what withdrawal symptoms they went through? Wishing you all the best of luck.

Posted by: brian December 24, 2012, 12:05 AM
this is a great post! firstly id like to say to Jane - dont give up, youll get there,

i was addicted to Neurophen plus too for about 3 or 4 years, at the worst i was taking about 30 pills a day, its terrible stuff. i couldnt go anywhere with out a packet. anyway i did get off it cold turkey and it was so terrible, words couldnt explain, im really annoyed that there isnt more info on how it affects you and how to get off it. during my 3-4 weeks of getting off it - i rarely slept, every night my bed was soaked from sweat, i was so angry at everything i got in a few street fights and road rage alot, wich is totally not part of my usual personality. anyway, i was totally off them for a whole year, but started using again from time to time after my mother died. but never more than 2-4 a day or sometimes only 2 over two days, but again i have found myself addicted... i tried to go off them last week and got to day three and was feeling almost as bad as i did last time. . . i really dont want to go through the terrible withdrawls again, so i too am cutting down and will probably go see the doctor soon for some codine with out the ibproufen as you said!

thanks for your posts, it probably helps lots of people with the same problem !

Posted by: Skuyla December 24, 2012, 4:21 AM
At one of the chemists I go to the one woman recognised me asked where my card was (point card for store which they use at pharmacy section to get details) I told her I lost it when in actual fact I was now using a false name because My card had been flagged to not give anymore without prescription. The woman said to me you got these pills two weeks ago how can you go through so many in two weeks? She didn't wait for my reply, She then said I can lose my job here, give me the pills and marked on the system "told patient to speak to doctor" and that was that.

Posted by: lisa January 8, 2013, 5:16 PM
I too have been addicted to codeine based pills for 8 years now.Initially I was put on a repeat prescription of 30/500 cocodomol.After 6 years I tried to come off them.I went to the GP and they sent me to the substance abuse clinic which was full of alcoholics and illegal drug addicts.They had no provision for people addicted to codeine based pain killers.Anyway I tried to taper down but you realise it's that moment of calm and warrmth you get from the pills that you end up chasing.I realised my whole life was governed by these moments,including my eating pattern.The last thing you should do is take this sort of medication on an empty stomach but you do to increase the affect.I went cold turkey and suffered flu like symptoms and extreme tiredness for about 7 days.Was doing so well then had a bereavement and ended up taking nurofen plus(i was too ashamed to get co-codomol from the doctors as that would be admitting i had failed).I managed to get off these at christmas as I caught a virus and was too sick to keep any food down let alone pills.Up to that point I was taking up to 40 nurofen plus a day in doses of 10 at a time and I was starting to get acid problems.I've now started taking them again 10 days ago-40 yesterday,30 today.But the acid issue has been keeping me awake at night/waking me up.This morning I threw up because of it.I'm starting to get a bit scared,especially after reading some of the posts on here,but it is so hard to stop taking them.You end up not caring about how the pills are damaging your organs.A friend who was a heroine addict(now on methodone) says that codeine is one of the hardest drugs to get off.It is such a lonely place being an addict.I read it here over and over,about doing the chemist rounds,lying and hiding pills etc..I'm based in the UK in a major city so have about 20 different chemists i can go to!I'm very grateful that others have posted their experiences on here.I need inspiration and support where i can get it,and also offer my support to anyone who may need it.Good luck to everyone struggling with addiction.I am now building up to stopping once again.Has anyone got any natural remedies/harmless products that can help with the side affects of coming off nurofen plus?
Thanks for reading

Posted by: N+addict January 8, 2013, 10:57 PM
Hi Guys, Day 9 of no N+ for me today. I stopped because the thought of being an active N+ addict for the rest of my life frightened the heck out of me. I just could not come to terms with that thought. So, I knew I had to stop some time, so best make it now.
I don't get too bothered with the physical withdrawl sysmpoms - for me it seems like a just punishment for being so stupid :-) - but the anxiety and depression are killers.

I'm sure you know these but my recomendations would be:
Immodium to let you eat - important for your mood not to starve yourself
SSIR antidepressants - perscribed by a good doctor, help hugely to level my mood
1-2 weeks supply of Valium or sleeping pills - for anxiety, or for sleep, but only for a short time.

Its still hard but at least the above make the imediate cold turky bearable. A longer term plan is also needed, counciling, Self Help groups, CBT etc.

At 9 days its starting to look much much better, there is a good end in sight - well, a good end to the begining.

Good luck to you all, N+ Addict.

Posted by: frankie January 13, 2013, 9:07 AM
After doing some research about coming off N+, i decided to go cold turkey. I thought it best for me. Two weeks tomorrow and I honestly feel like i've got my life back on track. A great partner and two kids makes it bearable to come of, for their sake and for my own health. For the last 2 years i have been having a lot of kidney problems and other symptoms related to N+ abuse. i have been on these tabs for 7 years (secretly).

I would say you have to be in the right mindset to come of these. It's like coming stopping smoking. Pick a date and build yourself up to it. be positive and set goals for yourself. i have started training, walking and running the last fews days. i couldn't the first weeks because of withdrawal symptoms, flu like symptoms and a lot of peeing. make sure you drink plenty of water to flush all toxins out....

good luck everyone. i wish you all the best and once you've kicked this, you will be so proud of yourself xx

Posted by: atv January 14, 2013, 9:48 PM
I am really sorry to hear all of your stories of addiction and the physical problems it has caused you.

I really felt the need to post on some harm reduction as I am EXTREMELY surprised it has not been mentioned. The harmful components of any codeine pills are the ibuprofen and the paracetamol. If you only have access to OTC codeine it will undoubtedly contain them as an extra ingredient. BUT .... these can be removed in a simple process that takes 5 minutes called a 'cold water extraction'.
Google it. You are unnecessarily putting yourself in pain with stomach ulcers etc that could result in death, PLEASE use this procedure if you are taking over the daily limit of ibuprofen or paracetamol!!!!!

Posted by: Lian January 16, 2013, 10:34 PM
Hi all my name is Lian ( Leanne ) and I am also addicted to n+ I live just north of Newcastle England and have the same problem being that I have no less than 7 chemists within walking distance of my house. I am now on my third attempt to stop using n+ and although I'm now down to 16 pills per day and I'm happy to be down to so few, I take my pills every morning but always find myself taking another 16 in the evening. I need so super advice as I'm starting to suffer from some nasty side effects now such as not sleeping, pains in my tummy, feeling weak all of the time and problems breathing. I'm a single mother of two and I've just very suddenly lost my dad and my mam has just found out she has breast cancer, I really don't want my death to be added to that list. I've been to my gp all three time for help with this and the last time I was told that they wouldnt help me again. How bad is it to go cold turkey ? How long does it last ? Please help me, this is also my dirty secret and I can't bare to do this on my own.

Thanks guys
Lian x

Posted by: ermahampton January 28, 2013, 5:46 AM
A 39-year-old woman was referred by her general practitioner to the emergency department (ED) of our community hospital with a 24-hour history of acute epigastric pain. She had a past history of alcohol misuse, codeine misuse and pancreatitis.

While in the ED, she described recreationally taking 16–24 Nurofen Plus tablets (Reckitt Benckiser, Sydney, NSW) (containing ibuprofen and codeine) per day for the previous 3 weeks. Clinical examination revealed pallor, mild diaphoresis, a heart rate of 130 beats/min and blood pressure of 92/60 mmHg. The patient’s abdomen was grossly distended and maximally tender on palpation in the epigastrium. Bowel sounds were absent. Intravenous access was established and infusion of 2 L crystalloid fluid was commenced.

An erect chest x-ray confirmed the presence of gas under the diaphragm (Box 1). An urgent laparotomy revealed a perforated anterior gastric antrum ulcer and 2.6 L of green turbid fluid in the peritoneal cavity. The patient was given an additional four units of packed red cells intraoperatively, and her ulcer was oversewn. Postoperatively, she was transferred to an intensive care unit at another hospital.
Use this http://forum.internationaldrugmart.com/addiction-recovery-f27/ to discuss more about addiction

Posted by: Dan February 14, 2013, 12:19 PM
Leanne .i like you am an addict with a small child. First thing is admitting you have a problem and stop dragging your heals beating round the bush and do something about it.i have been addicted for 6 years and also live in a city (Dublin) with access to 100's of pharms.everyone calls it there dirty little secret.i found the best way of beating this called tapering.for example if you start by taking 30 a day you take 10 in the morning then 10mid day then 10 at night. The reason why you crave another 16 in the evening is because codione only has a half life of 6 hours half the life in your system as a normal opiate.you will then have to cut down slowly.unfornunitly by only two to three down a week.too quickly will result in relapse.ul need an acid repressent from ur doc called emazole and to relax ul need Xanax also something to sleep that's not addictive cause lets face it we both have that Gene.there called sitlcnot.make a plan of action,write it out cross out each week f***ing sign in blood with your children's pictures attached and do not differ from the plan.then at least ul see the date when ul only take one morn noon and knight for the last time. And ul be proud to say u did this not just for you, for the kids. For mummy. It's time you took control of there mum and kicked this junke devil b**** off your shoulder.you can do it.im down to six a day from 80.chat soon and good luck Leanne.you CAN do this !

Posted by: kylie February 24, 2013, 1:31 AM
Hi all, i have been a user of the very EVIL Nurofen Plus tablets for over three years now. i have two children 8 and 15 plus a very loving partner, we have been together for 19 years and im 35, i was taking 60 tablets a day, my partner was unaware of my addiction and i hid it good, but as time went on i couldnt go a day without my fix up pills, i drink a lot and they made me feel better, but as time went on it was getting harder to get them, so i started asking a couple of my friends to get them, eventuially i ended up really hooked and really sick, the pains in my stomach were really bad, i was thirsty all the time, i had to take a drink bottle of water with me every where, i ended up not eating because if i did i would end up spewing, i couldnt use my bowels and would sit on the toilet for ages just hoping something would happen, this is where i knew i had to get help, i didnt want to die, i had 2 beutiful kids and my partner to think about. i tried going cold turkey but the withdrawals were to much!
I went to a new doctor to get help, it was the best desion of my life, she put me on a Codeine phosphate tablet (30g)plan where (it depends on how much nurofen you take) i started taking 20 codeine tablets for the first day and went down by half a tablet a day, it is great! i dont feel sick, i dont have cramps in my stomach, i can go to the toilet when i need to, and best of all, im not taking a hand full of tablets all the time, i dont get any withdrawals, and i feel better then i have in a long time, sooo if you are serious about getting of the EVIL NP please ask your doctor about this plan, it really does work! i am down to 17 and a half today and feel awesome!

Posted by: Adam February 25, 2013, 6:54 PM
Hello everyone I'm 36 years old,three years ago I had an injury at work,my foot was ran over by a forklift,luckily for me I only suffered nerve damage and massive swelling my steel cap boots saved my toes,so anyway after a long recovery and lots of work cover Dr's that had works best interests at heart not mine or my foot for that matter,I'm addicted to nurofen plus it started with Dr's giving me endone then panadien forte then nurofen plus.
With out doubt this is harder to quit than smoking I'm using 20pills a day and its getting worse I have told my Dr that I'm addicted to these and all they seem to do is pull out the script book and feed you more drugs,I'm tired of taking pills there must be a better option than this

Posted by: kylie February 26, 2013, 11:47 PM
Hi Adam, im sorry to hear your story, i to am addicted to Nurofen plus and had the same thing happen to me with the doctor, i have changed doctor's surgery's and am on a Codeine Phosphate plan, i started at 20 tablets a day and go down half a tablet each day ( 1-1\2 every hour). It does take a while to get down to the last tablet but it works, i have no withdrawls and im feeling great, im down to 16 codeine tablets today and i was taking 60 nuforen plus tablets every day for around 3 years. I hope this helps you. kylie

Posted by: Dad February 27, 2013, 8:28 AM
My adult Child has been using Nurofen for months. Gods knows how many or perhaps even years? I have seen a gradual decline in her health ranging from mood swings, being irritable, kind of blazay laxed & noticably at times unreasonably selfish. She just does not look healthy anymore and is mostly miserable and not the happy Child I would like to have back that she ones was. It disturbes me greatly to see my Adult Child like this. I have pointed the hazards out to her on numerous occasions and yet she still keeps buying Nurofen Plus. I am at a lost!!!!

Posted by: Antidrug February 27, 2013, 9:10 AM
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Posted by: Ellen February 28, 2013, 11:23 AM
Hardly helpful Antidrug. People are on this forum in an attempt to get off N+, so your suggestion for people to "get off the s***" is what people are trying to do. People who access this forum are already in a fragile state and are normally considering going through withdrawals or are already going through withdrawals, so your unhelpful suggestions could very well make people feel even more isolated and alone in their addictions. They come here to gain helpful advice and not to be judged or criticised. If you are going to comment, please do so with compassion and empathy in mind.

Posted by: Adam Anzac March 3, 2013, 3:00 AM
@Antidrug
Sorry but you are a fool,going by your username you are only here to troll and to put your two cents in,you're not here to seek help or offer other people sound advice about any kind of addiction be it drugs or not,I didn't wake one morning and say to myself hmmm think I may go and get some pain killers and start a long road of pain and misery.
My case like many others on here is a cry for help,I have seen 22 Drs in the last three years due to my work injury,if you need to take off your shoes to count that high by all means go ahead,All except two being my surgeon and my pain specialist put me on Strong pain medication to mask what was really going on.
Now I have a higher education but I didn't know much about medicine so when I saw the first batch of Drs and they prescribed me 30mg of endone just so I could stand up I trusted them and I trusted the fact that they were fixing my pain issues,Yes I took it no I didn't research the drug at the time and yes I should have but let me clarify here so you understand.
I had a crushed foot with nerve damage and a massive hematoma I couldn't walk I couldn't stand I couldn't function I often thought of going to my garage and getting my makita circular saw and fixing it my self,and no I'm not exaggerating,when you are in that much pain anyhing the Drs tell you,you will do.
So Antidrug don't come here and judge and blame people and say "It's upto you" mate you make me sick.

Posted by: DAC March 3, 2013, 8:01 PM
Not my drug of choice but I could not help but reply. Antidrug, your pretentious, oversimplified , uninformed opinion is not only unhelpful to someone recovering it is downright offensive. Stick to what you know which seems to be little or nothing at all and get out of the way of people who are courageously taking their first steps to recovery. If you havent walked a mile in someones shoes you have no idea what theyve gone through. Besides that, drugs affect different people in different ways so there is no cure all approach to addiction. Its "just say no" all over again. Got a drinking problem ? just say no, weight problem? just say no, cocaine, pain pills , herion addict....just say no.. Gee... I never knew life was so easy....

Posted by: Terri March 12, 2013, 4:31 PM
Hi everyone. I've been addicted to nurofen plus for 10 years. Ive been taking about 80 a day. I'm a mother of two, and had easily stopped taking them when pregnant, only to get straight back on them once my youngest was. Born. I have a loving partner, that has no idea of my addiction. My youngest child has severe ADHD. So it's going to take all my strength since he is more than a handful and extreemly stressful. I've decided to give this devil NP the boot. My life revolves around it. Everyday I go on my mission for my pills. Most of the pharmacies are well aware I get NP and get it often. I've only come across maybe three pharmacists in my ten years that refuse to sell me anymore without a script. And a couple of them I'd just hold off going there for a month and go back and they happily hand it over. I don't even want to think about how much money I've wasted, or what I've done to my body. I'm going to taper down. Starting today. I had 5 NP at 4am, I'm feeling ok, except i have no energy and a headache, I think I'll be surprised at just how little I need. It's just I've been chasing that high... I have some panadene forte tablets if i need then at least I can take the edge off. Today is day 1. I'm not thinking about 30 days down the line. Just going to try and do one day at a time and claim my life back. Oh how wonderful it would be to be able to just walk past a chemist. Oh I'm feeling a bit sick in my tummy. But to be expected I guess. Wish me luck.

Posted by: Adam Anzac March 13, 2013, 5:03 AM
Hi Terri congrats
I'm not going to bore you with lines like "today is the first day of the rest of your life"
Blah,blah,blah.
Hang in there if I can do it you can too I have no will power at all,all I do is keep busy and take each day as it comes,I'm lucky enough to have a great girl in my life that supports me,one thing that could help you is come clean with your partner about your habit,I did and I thought she would be ashamed of me and I would lose her,but she's been great and the weight that lifted from my shoulders after telling her has really helped as well,no more hiding or sneaking around I've never cheated on a woman in my life but I have had a love affair with NP that she knew nothing about for two years and now that she knows,it just makes it that much easier,maybe I'm just lucky but if you really feel you can't tell him then maybe you shouldn't but I'd like to think that you can and if you asked him for help I'm sure he would.
Anyway feel free to give us updates and vent on your recovery
Cheers

Posted by: Terri March 13, 2013, 9:35 PM
Hi Adam,
Thanks for your reply. I'm terribly sick, sweating so much, and have a short fuse. It's like waking up from being in a coma for 10 years, I managed to sleep last night for a few hours and woke up in the biggest panic. I'm crying at the drop of a hat. I guess it's from all those years of not crying and numbing my pain its all got to be released. I don't know why I thought this time of year was a good time to do it, it's just starting to get cold and I'm already freezing. I'm so down about everything and can't believe I'd do this to myself and my family. I hate this. It's hard to think positive, I am trying- only lasts about ten mins. I nearly went out this morning and got some, but I've gone through so much already I'd just be going backwards. And what is up with cigarettes- OMG they taste discusting. I keep forgetting too, I'll think I'll go and have one to distress and then not only the horrid taste but I feel like I'm speeding. Good time to give them up too. I thought about telling my partner this morning before he went to work, though he's not handling the fact our little one has just been diagnosed with ADHD, so I'm almost certain he'd lose it if I told him. I've done this before a few months before I fell pregnant. Why oh why would I stupidly knowing the end result go back and get that first packet after he was born. I'm on day three- from now to day 7 will be the peak of all the chills and * insert loud swearing *. I've got to go. * cries*

Posted by: Adam Anzac March 14, 2013, 9:20 AM
Hey Terri
It's tough I know,some people here have gone to the Dr to help them and its worked for them I didn't bother as I'm tired of taking pills so its cold turkey for me,maybe that's something that you could look into if it gets to much to handle I wouldn't quit smoking yet until you're over the withdrawal of the NP,I still smoke but I have a shocking cold at the moment so it hurts to smoke anyway.
We don't have any children just two beautiful dogs (huskie and a malamute) it must be hard to deal with your child with ADHD and I couldn't even start to understand what that's like,from I can tell you're a strong woman with a need and a desire to quit for the good of your family,When it gets unbearable just think of what the future has install for you,I've been putting the money I spent on NP away each time in a jar so I can see that getting full,look its strange I know but right now we need to find anything that keeps us motivated lol and a spare $200 does it for me.
Hang in there Terri you will get through it,promise

Posted by: brow March 17, 2013, 2:52 PM
nurofen should not be sold over the counter!!! end of...!!!

Posted by: kaza March 25, 2013, 12:21 PM
Just wanted to say after feeling SO alone with N+ addiction for years at least I know I am not the only one. That said - I feel alone sitting here with my 2 beautiful boys in the house - as I sit here hiding on the PC not knowing if I will be round long enough to see them grow up. I was prescribed co-codamol 11 years ago for hip-pain and over the years have always used them for a "high" - stopping only when I was pregnant. Now I am SO scared - I have stomach / liver pain, I feel sick and am SO tired I could literally sleep standing up. I am terrified of the damage I have done over the years - often hitting 32 N+ a day - at least 24 a day. In the UK it EASY to get. I been GP twice - first one was helpful - advised cutting down to 8 a day BUT I dont think they realise just HOW hard that is - you are ill with withdrawal. Went back to normal as could not look after kids withdrawing. Second GP stared at me like I was an idiot and said I could see a shrink. Today is day 3 of cutting down to 12 a day and it hard - sleep is full of nightmares, my stomach hurts and I so tired and panic feeling and depression getting worse. I made appointment with first GP today but he cannot fit me in till 16 april - and then I do not know what he will say - I am terrified of the damage I have done. I cannot tell my partner - I told him before and he thinks it was short-term addiction for toothache - he would be furious if he knew what I had been doing for years and the GUILT when I look at my sons is tearing me apart. I am praying I can ride out at 10-12 a day till I see GP and I pray he can put me on "codine Phosphate Plan" which seems to be most helpful to others on here. I was never told how addictive codine was when I first was prescribed them - I had a 3 week old baby at the time and assumed taking them would be no problem - how wrong can you be !

Posted by: Karen April 8, 2013, 4:41 PM
I am now on day 4 of cold turkey. I have been taking nurofen plus for around 4 years and usually 4 a day. I think because I never went over the recommended dose I thought it was ok, but now know that's not the case. Wish me luck!

Posted by: monandothers April 12, 2013, 1:25 AM
OxyContin is an awful drug, I've been on it for years now (prescribed) its hell to get off of it, and even if u do a extremely slow reduction u crave it like mad. Just to correct a previous post, endone and oxy is different. They're both opioids but in different forms. Im fro aus and have had both oxy and endone before.

Posted by: bigprob April 15, 2013, 12:39 AM
Hey guys, like many of you I am also a at home mother addicted to nurofen plus. This drug consumes my entire life. If i go to bed and know i have to chemist hop the next day, i rack my brains with where i can go....which pharmacy hasnt seen me in a while!. Then that next morning my mood is foul because i dont want to have to travel miles to get my fix. My local pharmacy girls all know and refuse to suply me now. Its so embarassing, i worry about being seen with my hubby incase someone says something to him. I spend in average eighty dollars a week on these pills......not including pharmacy hopping fuel!!! Today is my friggin day! I want the old me back. I dont want to keep spending my husbands bard earned money on pills. Its two thirty i. The afternoon, so far i took 5 panadeine (10mg codeine) each tablet. As opposed to 30 morning nurofen (12.8mg) per tablet. Will keep you a posted as there isnt much help out there for "our kind". Thanks and good luck to me :) :)

Posted by: Fellow addict May 2, 2013, 11:08 PM
Hi everyone, I've been addicted to Nurofen Plus for about 3 years taking between 25/30 per day. Have always said to myself "I must get off these" but it just never happened. Anyway last Monday around 1pm I took my normal 5 tablets leaving me just one left in the pack. It was then that I decided I was never going to buy any anymore. I don't know why it happened that way as I wasn't thinking about quitting that day but something just made me think enough is enough. I'd looked online before about the best way of quitting and for me I felt it was the cold turkey method. I wanted what was quickest so I'd be less tempted to change my mind. Well by Monday night I was feeling a bit flu like but it want too bad but by Tuesday morning boy was my body punishing me for not giving it its nurofen fix. My leg were the worst, constant aching and the insomnia was bad too. I got no sleep what so ever and by Wednesday morning I was thinking I couldn't do this anymore and wanted to go out and buy that little packet I'd promised myself I never would. It was then that I decided to tell the only person I could never tell, my mum. I rang her and spilled my heart out and she was brilliant. She promised she'd come and stay with me to help me through it. She lives 50 odd miles away but got here as soon as she could that day. I knew that by telling her that I'd have to keep going and failing would be harder with her around. Wednesday was a total nightmare, hot one minute, freezing cold the next, violent diarrhoea and those dam leg cramps. I took some Imodium for the diarrhoea which did ease it but wouldn't suggest that action to anyone else as whatever needed to come out still wanted to come out so I ended up vomiting so violently is was terrible. And again another sleepless night. By Thursday morning I did actually manage almost two hours sleep and was starting to feel a little more human again. Ended up quite a good day the rest of Thursday feeling I'd got over the worst, thank god. It's now nearly 4am Friday morning and I still can't sleep, have bad leg cramps but not unbearable. I just wish I could get some sleep but I really feel I'm nearly there. I am so glad I made that decision on Monday and feel that the insomnia and milder leg cramps are nothing compared to what I went through earlier on in the week. I can't believe I've actually done it. It was hard and I couldn't have done it without my mums support but I do think I did it the best way for me. Just waiting for these last couple of withdrawal systems to stop and I'll be free. Other than these I feel in myself like I felt after popping my usual 5 so I know I've beaten it. I can say hand on heart I will never take another codeine products ever again. You can quit if you want to, as long as you accept it's not gonna be easy and say to yourself I can get through this then you'll succeed. Just had to share my story as reading all the others on here have helped me more than you'll ever know. Thank you and good luck to anyone else trying to quit. IT CAN BE DONE.

Posted by: Fellow addict May 4, 2013, 12:48 AM
Just thought I'd let you all know that I'm still on tract. I took my last pil last Monday and its Saturday morning now and I've actually managed a few hours sleep. (A first since I stated my cold turkey) I've no energy levels during the day but if I don't have to do much its ok. The restless legs are still a problem but only at night and I'm actually feeling good throuout the day even though I'm exhausted with the lack of sleep I'd had. Even though I have gone through hell these past few days I do feel I've had it a little easier than some I've read on here. I know I'm over the worse and I still cannot believe I have actually done what I've wanted to do for so long and quit. I literally have to pinch myself. I reckon that within another week I'll be withdrawal free. I've only got the nighttime restless legs and the sleepless nights left to go and each night is getting better. But most important is that deep inside I know that I have beat this and know I will never let myself go anywhere near a painkiller ever again. I have not gone through all this for nothing. I would love it if my comments might help someone on these nasty little pills to quit too. x

Posted by: Meagsy May 6, 2013, 9:38 AM
HI all,

I am so glad I found this forum, sounds like there is more than me with this problem!!! I have been on and off N+ for the past 7 years. I have been to rehab twice for this and got off, something happens and the first thing I do is hit the chemist. Right now is the worse I have ever been, the last 2 days I took 50 tabs in one hit. I swore I would never go past 30! The post earlier on from a man who lost his wife really rocked me. I have 4 kids and right now this is my dirty secret, if my hubby or folks new I was back on this I would be so ashamed so I want to do this cold turkey. The worst withdrawals for me is the depression and the leg shakes. I am on day one today and I feel very positive, I know this will change though. This time last year I ran a half marathon, I either very healthy or killing myself. I reckon a lot of addicts are like this, I can't do anything in moderation. Would love any support that people have to offer, I just want my life back, right now if it wasn't for my kids I might just give up!!!

Posted by: Fellow Addict May 7, 2013, 11:56 AM
Hi Meagsy, I am here for any support you need. I'm now on day 8 of my cold turkey. Still having these terrible leg cramps but not as bad as they were. Day 2 was the worse day for these. During the day I can cope with them quite easily but at night it's much worse. That and the insomnia aswell is making things difficult. It's a hard slog but its so worth it as I'm sure you know. This is my first attempt at quitting and feeling positive I'll keep to it. Might I ask you why you fell prey to N+ again after quitting. I'm not asking for in depth details just why you felt the need to return. I'm asking so that I may be fore warned myself of what to look out for in the future. I'm so pleased you have took this leap to quit again, as we can't keep letting these little pills run and ruin our lives. Whatever help and support you need I will be very happy to provide. You can do this, you know you can as you've done it before. Just take it one day at a time and every morning say to yourself "that's another day I've got through"
Never feel that you're going through this alone, and never feel ashamed of you're addiction as we all make mistakes and by reading all the comments on here shows you just how many others are in the same position. Well done big time to taking back control of you're life x

Posted by: David May 7, 2013, 7:38 PM
i havent been able to sleep for days, i feel like i lost myself to this spice k2 stuff, please help me with advice, i get headaches and im scared i am going to end up a no life bum that ruined hes life on drugs.

Posted by: Fellow Addict May 7, 2013, 10:46 PM
Hi David, yep I know what you mean. It's the lack of sleep that's getting to me. I spoke to a pharmacist about this but they said that they could only give me something that might help me drift off to sleep but it wouldn't keep me asleep. So if I took what was offered it would be useless cos my restless legs would wake me up again. So I opted against it. I'm reluctant to go to my doctor cos I don't want this on my medical records but it might be something you could consider for yourself. You're not a useless bum (as you put it) infact you're far from it. You are someone very brave whose trying to take back control of you're life. Everyone makes bad choices in life, its what we do about it that makes us who we are.

Posted by: Fellow Addict May 12, 2013, 5:32 PM
It's now Day 13 of my cold turkey and still going strong. Mums now gone home but she's been a total star and very supportive. Really couldn't have done it without her. Being 100% honest with her was essential which was very difficult to admit it all to her. But we'll worth it now. My restless legs have almost stopped and I'm managing between 5 and 6 hours sleep a night. My calf muscles are really aching which I suppose is due to me having to keep moving my legs for nearly 2 weeks. I've still got chronic dirharra so have no energy levels at all at the moment. But feeling I'm getting there day by day. It's been a very difficult time, one which I have no intention of repeating, but to be finally free of these life controlling pills is well worth it. It was only on Day 2 and 3 that I nearly caved and bought some more but other than that I haven't been tempted at all to succumb. I'm thinking that within another week I should be almost there. Just want to feel I can do something without feeling totally knackered and worn out. I am so proud of myself for actually doing this. Never really thought I'd come off them even though I'd wanted to. Will check back in again and keep you all informed how I'm doing.

Posted by: strawbsnz June 3, 2013, 12:08 AM
Heya.

Been on 30 NP a day n want to come off it 100% - the $$$$ aapect, the monkey on the back aspect....ETC.

I want i out of my life, i do hold down two jobs tho, i work in construction 5 days a week n drive a truck on a saturday.

So my life MUST go on, work pays rent food ec.....whats your reduction ideas please.........im very desperate, im prpared to go to chemists n fess up n ask hen BOT to sell to me anymore too.

Posted by: Eveleivibe July 10, 2013, 3:16 AM
Hiya Straw,

Best to start a new thread rather than post on an old one - you'll get more responses. I was taking between 700-800 codeine a day, prob more some days. My doctor wasn't best in this area put me on 8 x 8/500 co-codamol, which were useless, then put me on 15mg x 4 - yep I get the feeling he did not believe how much I was taking even though we showed him all the packs....

Anyway i would suggest you start rith your doctor n if s/he is not helpful self refer to your local yourself to your local substance misuse centre. They may give you counselling or put you on a substitute like suboxone. I am now on 8 mg suboxone n it does relieve the cravings a bit but getting to the root of the problem is just as important.

Please take care of yourself ok
Evey x

Posted by: beck September 28, 2013, 3:24 AM
I've been addicted to nurofen plus for 4 years straight, at my worst I was taking 90 a day. I would travel a couple of hours everyday to get my fix chemist hopping everywhere. Most chemists had wisened up to me but I kept pushing and pushing them to supply me. I'd go get a script that should last me 3 months but it only lasted a couple of weeks. I pushed my body to the limit knowing that oneday these pills would get the better of me....and they did! I started getting pain under my ribs to the point of agony but I kept taking the pills. This lasted for a couple of months, I could hardly drive anymore cause the pain was unbearable but no I kept taking the pills. I noticed pins and needles in my arms at night and everytime I woke up in the morning I felt sick. I was admitted to hospital with a 'vomiting bug' I was spewing and pooing black stuff, the hospital put me on the drip then sent me home. A week later I felt breathless and my heart was going a mile a minute I felt exsuasted. I layed down and felt sick then suddenly I was in the bathroom throwing up blood clots, I passed out a few times and knocked over chairs and stuff to get to the phone and call ooo. Once in hospital they found I only had 1/3 of blood left in my body and my hemogloban count was 41, they flew me to Royal Adelaide and I had blood transfusions. An endoscopy showed an ulcer in my stomach bleeding and I was told if I had of left it any longer I'd be dead. PLEASE PLEASE people if you are addicted to nurofen plus get help! The withdrawl symptoms are horrible but its a fair trade off for your life.

Posted by: Eve October 16, 2013, 3:00 PM
Hi, was just wondering where you are at now in regards to quitting?

Posted by: Mark November 30, 2013, 6:43 PM
Hi - I am wondering how Jane the originator of this string is doing - are you ok Jane? hope you are. I am dealing with this addiction as well now for about 5 years. After reading all your stories, it has helped. Hope to be rid of it soon.

Posted by: tom December 1, 2013, 6:40 PM
I am so too addicted too nurofinen plus . but because its not considered as a main stream drug
I feel shamed too talk about it. I take around 12 a day every day I don't like going too get them over the counter because I get asked loads of questions on why I want them. but I won't tell the truth of course . I once give them up aroud 4 years ago I went too Amsterdam and somked cannabis for a week too withdrewn it worked but then a year later had a injury and doctors that did not no any better give me codeine containing tables and set my addiction off again I am going too get help form a doctor thanks too reading these forms and I hope others do too .

Posted by: DanR December 31, 2013, 9:47 AM
Hi all,
I am kinda turning to here as a last resort really.
I have been addicted to Nurofen+ for about 3 years now and take between 35-45 a day.
I have been to my doctors and talked to a drug counsellor, neither of them seem to comprehend tbe seriousness of this addiction.
It has literally ruined my life, my marriage has gone and I feel like I am living just to take these damn pills.
I thought when my wife threw me out that it would be the encouragement I needed to kick the things but as much as I tell myself I am going to cut back 1 at a time I get down to about 20 a day and end up back at square one.
Now I am getting the effects of taking so much, I have serious stomach acid pain and drink bottles of peptac a week and galllons of milk, kidding myself that it will protect me.
To be honest I dont know what I am expecting from here but just needed to tell someone who understands.
I know these things are killing me and yet I can't stop.
I am sorry for hijacking this thread but wasn't sure where I should put this...

Posted by: kiwi guy January 7, 2014, 3:06 AM
you still there DanR?

Posted by: DanR January 12, 2014, 5:44 PM
Still here kiwi.

Posted by: kiwi guy January 13, 2014, 2:25 AM
Hey there Dan
First off just wana Say I do understand N+ addiction,I know it all too well.having been addicted for the best part of 5 years to N+
I can't belive that your health care workers have not taken this addiction seriously,it is super dangerous,as you know Im sure.anytime i told a doctor or addiction center they acted immediatley.and either put me on a replacement script to get the ibuprofen out of my system,or got me into a detox house to clean up.
I don't know what to tell you mate,I guess I just want to say you can get off them.I have done .many times! the trick is staying off them.It's a journey and one that I am actually enjoying now.currently just coming up to 5 months clean.I don't even think about drugs at the mo(pretty cool!)
For me cold turkey is the way to do it-the only way,otherwise i just go round in circles.it is unpleasant but doesnt last long.
Anyway if you wana chat or ask anything I check in here most days

Posted by: DanR January 13, 2014, 1:53 PM
Thank you, and congratulations on kicking the s***.
I am currently a week into yet another tapering plan, I am also in the process of changing gps.
I am not sure I can do cold turkey, I think if I could lock myself away for a few days then I may have half a chance but unfortunately I work ridiculously long hours and its not really possible to take any holidays at the moment so I will continue with the tapering as best I can then once I have changed gps, will go and see them.
I appreciate your response and it is encouraging to see so many success stories here.

Posted by: Aussie Deb January 24, 2014, 6:51 AM
I’ve been abusing N+ for several years and for whatever reason I don’t know, have to take 6 at a time. The most I have taken daily for a long stretch of time is 48 a day. Two years ago, I started getting the abdominal pains. Turned out my iron/haemoglobin was dangerously low and I was referred to a gastroenterologist and a haematologist. It was thought I had Celiac Disease so got an endoscopy and Colonoscopy which proved I didn’t have Celiac Disease but didn’t show up an ulcer either (at that stage). The specialists were confused and so for a year I received blood transfusions and iron infusions about every 3 months. A year ago it all flared up again and I spent 6 days in John Flynn Hospital and another endoscopy did reveal several ulcers. In the last year, I got iron infusions twice but now both specialists have said that this cannot continue as there are other side effects which – over time –will be life threatening. I laid all my cards on the table the last time I saw the Gastroenterologist, saying that having this addiction is miserable and if I could stop taking the Nurefen Plus, I would. My Iron is so low. Had a blood test yesterday and GP called today saying to go to hospital as my haemoglobin is down to 63.
The Gastro Dr has referred me to a clinic that deals with addiction. I can go as an out patient. My appointment is for next Thursday – I’m really hoping this will be what I need.
Side effects I’ve had/have: Constipation (from the Codeine), terrible stabbing pains in stomach, dangerously anaemic, awful reflux (I have to sleep sitting up or very propped up) and of course a great big hole in my budget!!!!
DanR – I really think you need to be referred to a gastro specialist as it sounds like you have ulcers (the end game of ibuprofen addiction). I was going through a whole bottle of Gaviscon every day before I got a script for Pariet (Rabeprazole). It slows or stops the production of acid in the stomach.

Posted by: jodes February 27, 2014, 3:17 AM
hi all. like many of u ive been using N plus for a long time... 90 tabs daily for 15 years. atm im in hospital after having major surgery for a bowel obstruction, ulcers low potassium & many other things wrong due to the drug abuse. Have been here for 7 weeks in agony because ive built up a resistence to opiates & the docs cant fix my pain. i am in a living hell! ive quit twice before but always relapsed. This time i had no choice. i dont know how im going to go when i go home tomorrow & how not to relapse again seeing as im in so much pain. i really hope this doesnt happen to anyone else. so i wish all of you out there with the same addiction all the best because it will kill you it certainly nearly killed me. x

Posted by: Ellie March 14, 2014, 5:33 PM
Hi everyone. Don't really know what to say...or do. Only I've been addicted to Nurofen plus,after being advised to use them for toothache,for over 7 years now and take anywhere from 64 to 96 tablets a day!! I have previously tried getting off them by weaning twice now! This being the third! I am sick literally to death of this! I have 3 beautiful children who don't deserve this! It costs me over £100 a week! And I really don't think I'm going to live for much longer! First started with occasional twisted bowels...hurts like hell...about 5 years ago. Constantly in pain now,with bowels...stomach ulcers...gall stones...bleeding stomach ulcers...my blood count is so low I've recently had to have blood transfusions! I regularly vomit...due to ulcers and ibuprofen overdose! I have lost so much weight and I'm constantly ill and completely drained! I know it makes me a terrible mother...rightly so. I feel so ashamed and weak,I just don't know what to do or how to do it!! :(

Posted by: kittin March 23, 2014, 3:19 PM
l, I too am addicted to nurofen plus. I have been addicted for about nine years. Unfortunately, I am in a bit of a black hole and have rather given up on life and I don't have any real desire to quit. It's utterly soul destroying.

Posted by: Eve April 1, 2014, 9:46 PM
Hi, my 4yr anniversary of being addicted to N+ was yesterday and I just feel so awful. I am going to taper down beginning today/now. I to like most of you, have kept this a secret. So your stories are so helpful to me and I don't feel so alone in this fight. My plan is to taper, meditate, vitamins, and read these stories to keep me focused.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, stories, and experiences
Eve

Posted by: deep April 11, 2014, 2:32 AM
i m n+ addictive takin 7 a day in morning and in evening heavy alcohal father of 2 kids i am sick
to pick this addiction tried to stop and i stopped for 3 days but was bad i was sweating and goin to toilet cause gt loose motions due to this s*** and started again on 4th day because i was feeling so week i want to stop but dont know i m only33 years olddeep_singh20002000@yahoo.com

Posted by: Aussie girl April 18, 2014, 7:37 AM
Best to go over to the pain pill board, there is alot more traffic and help on that site.
I to suffer N+ addiction and am trying to beat it.

Aussie girl

Posted by: buddha123 April 24, 2014, 7:50 AM
hello everyone im new here but an old hand at nerofen pluss.........
i first started taking co-codamol from the dr for pnumoanier i remember the day i got home took two of them pills i not only got relife from the pain in my chest but i lay there feeling euphoric it was bliss after 3 months of being on repeat priscripsion i needed more so i went to the chemist got some n+ sometimes i was taking upto 2 32 packs a day 64 pills in one day ?
i feel like a joke reading that back.....? anyway i desided to quit and took ny last dose....after 12 hours i felt like death all the usual runny nose sweating aches and pains restless leg no sleep which lasted about a week before i started to get over it i said to my self i would never hurt my self like that again. but when you get over the wrost of it you start to think today i need something one pack wont hurt just one i'll have one pack to feel better then stop again ?
its NEVER is just one pack it never can be but after a week or two being back on them scares you so you do stop again but after years of abuse the withdrawal is the same as if you had been taking them for years......oh and by the way never drink exess of alochole at the same time...ive had two episodes of near death from this ? what happens is if you drink loads enough to make the next day a waste of time...and take your little white pills....omg i got up hung over got the kids to school got home and downed 16 n+ and within half an hour a heat came over me and i started to sweat feel sick my head was turning dark and i had to lay down i walked to ny bedroom and lay down. i didnt get up from that bed for three days ? three days of cronic anxiity sweating so much i soaked the bed in five mints flat couldnt sleep or eat and the wrost part was my kids and there mum did'nt know what i was doing they thought i had the flu but because i was so scared aswel she called out the dr....when she came she knew what i had she asked my partner to leave us and she said are you taking heroin i sade no but i do take 64 n+ per day she said to me no wonder you are feeling this bad n+ rot your stomach so when you drink alchole you have no tummy protection you are feeling like you have butterflie in your stomach but intensifi that a ten fold she called it a false fear and that was the key for me because for first few days even the thought of going out the house or cooking dinner was terrifing me now i knew now matter what i thought it was false and i also got told your body will heal its self you have lost the balance the natural equilibiam (sorry about my spelling) so i knew what i was feeling was caused by what i had done this was a massive realise and what got me over the wrost of it.....however it was this that keeps me comming back to n+ and im back here again i split with ex of 5 years and when i was at the train station there was a boots there and a big sign calling me nurofen pluss one pack wont hurt so i did it to ease the pain so here i am aqgain this is about 8th time of becomimg hooked on them again and i think the reason i keep getting hooked that i found a way to easaly get though the withdrawal even though i know these things are killing me....im going to stop again now and if this way helps any of you then at least i had a little something to help just dont make the same mistakes i did and keep going back.......it's quite long winnded so bear with me.......
take your last dose the night befor you plan to quit
when you wake up next day eat a bannana or to withdrawal wont be with you yet so you can eat.....drink a pint of water an hour because lots of codine is out your system in urine....you should start to feel withdrawal comming on in the everning of the first day at that point take six immodum befor bed this wont harm you but you should get good nights rest without belly ache........the next day you wil wake feeling it now....runnuy nose aches and pains headahce back ahce weak no energy now when full on withdrawal kicks in it helps to remember thats how it works you have given your body a drug that makes you feel amazing you have over worked some areas eg dopamine path ways seritonin and other things in your brain now you have stopped put that rubbish in your body will begin to repair its self thats all that happning your body is repairing its self nothing bad is happening it might feel that way but your body is amazing we put them though all sorts then when we stop it naturally repairs its self again so just bear in mind if your feeling hurt your body is fixing that it wont be long till your healed if your frightened that is another trick of addiction you have given your brain a drug what opens up the feel good pathways in your head.....is it anywonder you feel depressed now...my advise here is be like the buddha lol just notice your thoughts but keep reminding your self these thoughts are not mine the drug i took is making me have them.....im going to wait 3 days and just ignor them give your brain 3 days to return to normal function if you dont take any more its that quick to heal...try this buddhist trick
R recognise your thoughts and feelings
A accept those thoughts and feelings are there because of the drug you took.
I investigate those thoughts and feelings really look int your self and realise that its no worse that having a bowt of flu it might not feel nice but its there now and will be gone soon. thank you body for fixing the harm you do to it...
N NEVER means never take thinking seriosly thinking happens wether we like it or not so for the first few days just ignor your thoughts coz if you dont they will make things 100% worse if you cant do that then stop your mind completly this takes some effort but canbe done heres how......
when you look at your mind it shuts up it dont like eye contact.....so look back at mind imagine you could roll your eyes back into your head so they are looking at you mind when youve done that ask you mind ? go on then what are you going to think next ? it will be dumstruck when you ask your mind to think it cant and it hates being watched even if you are walking around all day asking what will i think next ? do it you will be supprized how withdawa; feels with your mind interffing.........and always remeber every secound the passes your body is working to heal you nothing bad is happening only good
my wish is you all heal from these nasty life taking evil little pills just remeber today no nurofen+ withdrawal wont kill you and will be over when your body fixs you.

Posted by: Bobs May 19, 2014, 4:46 PM
I'm currently taking 64 N+ per day sometimes 96 and have taken 128 a few times I think I've drifted this way because of crushing anxiety I'm even too anxious to tell a GP which I rarely visit anyway.. I'm stressed at work too. This originally started to relieve pain in an old injury but the feeling of calm made day to day life much easier this has been going on for 5 years now.. How do I tell my GP? Should I tell my GP? My anxiety effects every aspect of my life it's left me single for ever and socially awkward but ask any person and they'll say im the life and soul of the party... Nobody knows me and on top of all that these things are killing my finances... What should I do?

Posted by: Nablyudala May 23, 2014, 7:02 AM
Thank you for the informative posts.

Posted by: Divmyster May 26, 2014, 8:07 AM
Hi, I also have a big problem with N+. It started when I was 22, I I'm now 28 and on around 30 to 40 per day. I live in Edinburgh and I'm surrounded by chemists. I've recently lost my job and simply can't afford it anymore. I've been to the doc on a number of occasions for help and they've tried to wean me off, but I've always ended up relapsing, and I'm pretty sure I've burned my bridges there. So I have one portion, to go cold turkey! My girlfriend thinks I'm clean and tells me she's proud of me all the time. I'm so ashamed I can hardly breathe. I've come off them before and found that the physical withdrawals aren't the hard part of the process, it's the feeling of hopelessness and depression that follows. I'll admit, I've never been clean for more than a week since starting. Does it get easier? Can anyone explain how and when it gets easier, if it even does?

Thanks

Posted by: Ellen1234 May 26, 2014, 10:48 PM
I found you have to be honest with someone...if it can't be a family member (it wasn't for me), then I told a GP. She organised medical tests to check if any damage was done my liver, kidneys, stomach etc. Once that's done, then you need to make the decision to go cold turkey or taper. Tapering worked for me, but other prefer CT. I read somewhere here on the forum that you need to want to be clean more than you want to be high. That really resonated with me. Everytime I consider taking N+, I just think that it will NEVER end well. I can't just take a few here or there, I just want to be totally free and never think of them again.

Keep posting regardless, we can all empathise with how this drug has taken over our lives.

Posted by: john May 28, 2014, 11:07 AM
@Jane, Ive being down that route taking min 48 n+ a day, I was put on them codeine phosphate and same thing they are crap, I used swallow the whole bottle (weeks Supply) in a day or 2, then I was put on DF118's same thing, I detoxed myself heaps of times but always went back on them, eventually after an attempt (I necked 100 paracetamol) I went on methadone and let me tell you If I had a billion cuid I would go back to necking nurofen any day of the week its fine if your an heroine addict robbing old ladies and sharing needles but not for codeine , its made me a slave and its nearly impossible to get off, wish I did a bit of research first because docs have not a clue.
You will need IMO to just kick it as what can happen and what will as I used be the same traveling all over the county even wearing disguises to buy them and answering the same questions is you will feck up the doc script and end up not being able to get them from any chemist and may turn to methadone or worse.
PS Pls dont start taking benzos either to help you in codeine wds as them lads will seriously screw your brain. Also becarefull with doctors as they are not by no means experts in addiction and are more than willing to write one script to another as you seen , from codeine phosphate to oxy , that's mad same as treating an alcoholic firstly with beer and then moonshine.
In the vicious circle of opiate addiction you are on the lower end of the scale , not saying thats easy I know and codeine withdrawals last up to 10 days , the worst being over in 2-4 , thats when your at your weakest to start using again , you feel like sure I done it now one packet wont do any harm and it starts all over again. Please just quit but not on your own you will need support from other people as otherwise the pain either physical or mental is still there and you will return to opiates. Please dont end up like me , from nurofen pus to methadone hell.
Good Luck and I hope you don't make the same mistake as I did.

@Josh (the lad that smoked the fake weed) pls HTFU, are you serious, you sound decent but being addicted to that fake weed is a bit hard to swallow, 2 years in and your still feeling it.
Weed aint addictive , slightly mentally but you can just stop, I am not saying it aint true but Im thinking the fake stuff must have had some really bad chemicals into it, and you are in no position to offer advice to someone addicted to an opiate , different ball game there and you said yourself you know nothing about it.
Great to offer support but not advice pls on a drug you have no knowledge of.

Posted by: Rachel June 25, 2014, 4:52 AM
Dear Josh and Jane,

I have been reading your posts with interest. I'm based in the UK and my brother is addicted to Nurofen +. Please let me know how you're both doing?

It has been really helpful and useful for me to read your posts, thank you.

Charlotte.

Posted by: Michael Brisbane August 20, 2014, 8:07 PM
Get off this drug now.
I'm a long term addict. 12years. And if I take anymore I'll die. I'm in hospital with ulcers and in more pain then ever and being ulcers they only medicate u with buscopan.
I'm losing everything. My wife my kids the lot.
I tried quitting plenty of times. This is it now. It's been 3 days and no pills. I hope to god I can live again soon and not sit by the toilet or be in hospital much more.
Get help or die that's as real as it is.

Posted by: Magpie October 14, 2014, 8:04 AM
I've spent the last couple of hours reading through every single story on this thread and I'm so relieved to see that I'm not alone. I have been using N+ for the past few years but have increased my intake massively in the last year. I take up to 48 pills in one go, event thinking about it makes me feel sick, but its all I can think about as soon as I wake up. My boyfriend has no idea how bad my addiction is, my parents are starting to figure it out. I find myself roaming the area for chemists, and have to plan ahead which ones to go to in rotation so I don't get turned down, I even know what staff work on different days, so if one chemist has served me I know when another chemist will be on shift so I can use the same pharmacy twice within a few days. I know I want to stop but I don't know how, I have serious mental health issues and am so scared that when I quit, my head will be all over the place, which I just cant let happen as I have a job and a degree to complete so rehab is not an option for me. Cold turkey scares the crap out of me, but I'm also too scared to go to the doctors as I was sexually abused by one as a child. I have health issues already which I now see from what other people have shared, is down to my addiction. Last year I was rushed into hospital with a Hb level of 5.5, and have since had 7 transfusions and one iron infusion. I just obsess over how this is all going to end, I don't want to die but I don't know how much longer I can go on like this before something really serious happens. I just cant imagine being without that relaxed feeling, and the thought of being "in the real world" scares me too. Can I have a normal life like I see other people having. It seems impossible to me that I would ever be happy naturally, without these damn drugs! I worry that my body will never start producing its natural endorphins again. I'm sick of feeling and being sick, sick of the lack of money. I don't know where to next. Has anyone on the thread managed to stay clean? And if so, how is your life now, is it possible to be happy and calm without drugs?? Please someone talk to me, I'm at my lowest

Posted by: Ellen1234 October 31, 2014, 12:27 PM
Hi Magpie, your definitely not alone. Many of us are in the same boat as yourself. Have a look in the pain pill sub section of this forum. You'll read that many people are fighting the same fight as you. Check in when you feel up to it.

Ellen

Posted by: Luke November 23, 2014, 6:06 AM
On day three of cold turkey following a four/five year addiction to Nurofen Plus. 32 a day (except for the first year, started with maybe one or two, soon became 32 purely because it's the biggest packet they sell). This is my, probably fifth or sixth attempt to go clean, and I haven't had any medical care/ assessments but I'm assuming it's pretty much do or die... but that's the problem. I know that, I realise completely that every time I take my hit I'm risking my life, and I just don't care. Compared to that feeling, I just don't care. Or I don't until night time, then all the horrific possibilities keep me up at night, so I swear ill come clean, but then it's morning and who cares at that point because it's time to find another pharmacy and ect. A vicious and horrific cycle. I sometimes look at people in the street and wander how they get through the day without doing what I do.. I'm wasting away and I think that's what's making me give it a proper go right now. I've always been far too ashamed to tell anybody my problem, and now after so long it's pretty obvious there's something wrong just because of the way I look... so that's it, that's where I'm at. Day three without any contact, sitting around aching and waiting to feel normal again. But the urges are unbelievable. They're constantly in my mind, I never realised how hard it would be to resist something your body and mind wants so badly. Any idea how long this lasts? Already slipping. Just want to be normal again, it's been so many years. Does an addict ever really become a normal person again? Or is that impossible?

Posted by: Travelin man November 23, 2014, 1:08 PM
hi Luke , it is not easy- opiod withdraw'ls are bad- amongst the worst class of drugs to come off so you have done a very couragous thing- by reaching out and by joining this site- i dont know how long the WD's are going to last- everyone reacts differently - depends on how long - how many and the capacity of your body to deal with the shock of not having drugs in your system. it will get better if you hang in there - dont give up hope Luke - you should be nearing the end of WD's - they should gradually reduce in the next couple of days - stay strong - stay sober -

Posted by: Luke November 23, 2014, 4:26 PM
Thanks, means a lot. Got the week off work so plenty of time to ride out the worst hopefully. And I've stocked the place with food even though I'm not feeling that hungry (trying to have three decent-ish meals a day) so I won't have to leave the flat. My biggest worry is that as soon as I do leave to go back to work ill be straight into one of the many pharmacies dotted around, so the plan is to go for a few walks on the last few days off without any cash/cards so I can get used to being around the shops without the risk of being able to buy any. I'm hoping that the fact I've thought it all through, maybe I'll make it this time, but there's that consistent lingering doubt that just goes on and on. I really believe they need to start doing something (I have no idea what) to at least try and prevent people falling into this state, as it really is horrendous, and it just seems never ending. Reading that people have made it through, that helps. That gives hope.

Posted by: Travelin man November 23, 2014, 4:43 PM
yea Luke it is a curse i was given tramadol after back surgery- they are supposed to be non addictive- right i ended up eating 20+ a day as well as 20 solpodol i am now only 30 odd days off them so i know how you are feeling - but you will be amazed how quickly you will start to feel better once the original WD's begin to subside- for me it was 10 days but i was taking so much for so long my system was full of the crap- hang in there it will get better - drink as much water as you can - if you can eat all the better - stick with it - keep checking in and stay strong - stay clean- remember we are not alone on this journey- there are some great people on this site - they really helped me to get through it - listen to them they have all been where you are now - best of luck

Posted by: mcbeast December 15, 2014, 12:36 AM
hi, how youse goin'?

guess what - just found out i'm not alone in this s***-fight.. at my worst, was pounding 70 NfP's at a time.. lost 20kgs, throwing up daily, lower body all swollen (including a coconut-like scrotum, no kidding).. honed my acting/lying skills when chemists ask those questions

have since chopped it down to 19/day and feel ok.. no more vomit, 10kg's heavier.. don't feel like i'm dying anymore.. didn't know about tapering until i read it was possible on one of these sites..

to be clean is but a dream.. hope this helps

mcb

Posted by: Lulu December 24, 2014, 3:41 PM
Hi, I'm
Not sure if anyone reads this anymore but here goes. I'm addicted to n+ too 30+ pills a day, to scared to go to my doctors in case they take my son away and to frightened to tell family or friends in case they tell me what a s***ty human I am. Chemists have now clicked on to how
Many I take so have started driving 30+ miles sometimes to get them. Often I'll go to 4/5 at a time to stockpile. I'm going cold turkey tomorrow Xmas day as Im hoping that the holidays will
Keep
Me busy. I can't go to the toilet. I've started getting the most horrible stomach pains. I don't sleep I can't eat yet I've put on a stone from swelling. I'm 25 and I'm completely terrifed I'm going to die. I've never told any one about my addiction 4+ years.

Posted by: Travelin man December 24, 2014, 5:00 PM
hi Lulu - you are not alone in your struggle-if you check out the postings under pain pills at the top of the list you will find quite alot of us have struggled with addiction to pain pills - Coming straight off 30+ NP a day may be a bit of a shock to your system-have you tried cutting them down over a period of a couple of weeks- either way the withdrawls wont be fun but you can get through it- check out the other posts and you will find lots of good advice on getting through the various symptoms connected with the WD's- you gotta stay positive and strong- you will have some bad days - but once you are through them you are never going to have to do it again- you can get that monkey off your back- you wont have to worry about driving around trying to find chemists that dont know you-all the lying and the other b...s....t that goes with our disease. you should try and stay connected on this site - you will find alot of very good people with good practical advice-non-judgemental advice- we are all addicts here and suffer from the same disease-welcome-keep talking to us- tell us whats going on good or bad- there is plenty of help to be got on here-i wish you the best of luck Lulu-stay strong and stay in touch -

Posted by: Lulu December 27, 2014, 12:16 PM
Well today has been truly awful. I'm cold but I'm hot, I feel sick my stomach hurts. My body is obviously clearing out. I had 8 solpedine yesterday none today. I have no patience, I'm angry and I'm tired. I feel the worlds my enemy and I know I've ruined Christmas with my horrible mood. I'm tempted to get some weed just to calm myself. I can't eat. My partner has gone out for the day with his friends and I'm thankful that I don't have to tell him what's wrong with me. The only person that knows is my best friend and she's amazing. It gets better though doesn't it? I can't bear this anymore.

Posted by: Papa Bear December 27, 2014, 12:56 PM
Lulu:
I highly suggest you look in your telephone directory for the NA (Narcotics Anonymous) number or find your local group at na.org on-line for meeting locations.
You will find a group of folks who have been right where you are and they will help you.

All the best.

Bob R

Posted by: Lulu December 27, 2014, 1:52 PM
The group is held at my work place. If I'm seen going in I will loss my job 😢

Posted by: Travelin man December 27, 2014, 2:29 PM
hi Lulu , it will get better, day by day, as the crap leaves your system, you gotta hang in there and realise that this is normal for us- these WD's go with the disease we have all been through it- i know that doesent make it any easier-its hard wok getting clean- stick it out you can beat this-try and look forward to how you will feel when you are through the WD's - it will be worth it-hang in there Lulu-

Posted by: Lulu December 27, 2014, 2:53 PM
I just need a good night sleep to clear my head. This is exhausting! Thank you for everything

Posted by: Papa Bear December 27, 2014, 5:10 PM
What is more important .. your job or your life ??!!

I find it hard to believe that you would be fired for seeking help.

It really doesn’t matter. Without help I don't believe the job will last anyway. Do you?

I wish you the best.

Bob R

Posted by: ltaylor91 January 4, 2015, 7:52 PM
Hello, I see this thread is still active, so I’d very much like to join the discussion with you guys, having my own problems with Nurophen Plus. Hope that’s okay?

Brief bio -- I’m James, 23, from UK. Currently I take 42 tablets/day --- 21 morning, 21 night. I’ve been hocked on N+ for just over 1 year. For the 2 previous years I was addicted to Co-codamol, but at very low levels (only 6-8 tabs/day). I stopped taking co-codamol, cold turkey, and had 2 months of abstinence, no problems. Then after some traumatic events, I feel into DEEP depression and starting taking N+ at that point.

I have already taken steps to get my addiction under some control. July last year [2014], I was taking 70 tablets/day, -- 35 morning, 35 night. Over the last 5 months, I’ve been gradually bringing the numbers down; tablet by tablet, to the 42/day levels I currently take. (So far in total I have cut down by 28 tablets/day.) I’m happy with this, and plan to go down further, though I realise I’ve still got a long way to go. Problem is it’s just far too easy for me to get hold of N+. I live, work and study in London, and literally there must be a thousand pharmacies in this town for me to go to. Supply is never a problem. And what a fool I feel for it.

Health wise I feel fine, and thankfully no organ damage has happened to me, yet. Blood tests I paid for 2 weeks ago showed liver, kidneys, (everything) to be all okay. (The body builds up a tolerance I guess.) My lifestyle is pretty healthy, so maybe that helps? I don’t have any abdominal pains, no symptoms, etc. BUT I’m desperate to be rid of this addiction before any damage does happen.

I am managing to hold down a job and am doing a masters at university, but this addiction has affected me in others way. I’m constantly tired, my pupils always look super dilated, people asking me how much I had to drink the previous night!?!. Am much less social than I used to be, and have lost quite a few friends over past years. I used to be very athletic, playing football and rugby every week and running every morning. All that has stopped now and I’m the unfittest I’ve ever been, always low on energy.

I’d like to chat to someone who is in the same or similar situation, who understands the feeling of being a prisoner to this drug. Maybe exchange emails, swap advice. I’d like to know if/how other people are detoxing (by self or with pro-help) and how things are going. Just some chat with people who get it. Hope you don't mind me joining in... frankly I have no one else to confide in.

Thank you :)

Posted by: jane January 5, 2015, 4:14 PM
Hi itaylor, I've just read through most of the posts and I know exactly what you are going through, i'm a 38 yr old stay at home mum from Ireland and I take on average 48 a day but in the past few days I've started taking more and really want to stop but am so afraid of the withdrawal symptoms as I need to be able to cope with the day to day family life, this is the first time I've ever wrote on any forum about this and nobody knows so you are the first person I've told, I usually take 36 at a time and then 12 later on, I've starting getting terrible cramps and am scared I've done some damage, god reading back over my post makes me so ashamed and I feel like a terrible mum, hopefully talk to u soon x

Posted by: Travelin man January 5, 2015, 5:13 PM
Hi Jane, you have nothing to be ashamed of- Addiction is a disease that affects so many people- i am a recovering alcoholic- i also became addicted to pain pills - Tramadol/Solpodol and on occasion NP - you are far from alone in your dilemma - you will find alot of supportive people on this site-people who know what you are going through- having been there themselves-check out the pain pill board at the top - there are alot of people who are addicted to NP there and many who have quit- you should find it really useful - i know i found it a great help when i quit the pills back in september-keep reaching out for support and keep posting- best of luck Jane ( i am also from Ireland)

Posted by: ltaylor91 January 6, 2015, 8:51 PM
Hi Jane. Nice to meet you :) Sorry for late reply, had very busy day. I read your comment yesterday morning , but didn't have time to reply. I've been thinking of you all day.

I’m sorry to read all what you’ve been through, I totally understand the frustration of not feeling in control, and appreciate what a lonely and scary process it is. (Wish I could reach out and give a hug.) But Travelin man is correct -- you don’t have anything to be ashamed of, whatsoever. None of us wanted to end up in this situation. But you’ve recognised you’ve got a problem, want to stop and have the best interests of your family at heart. That shows you are thoughtful, caring and level headed person. N+ addiction has robbed so many people of their lives---- it’s obvious many others are also affected by it .…more than I ever realised. (Someday something has got to be done with regulating this drug!!) After reading several happy stories on here, I can take comfort in the fact that there are many examples of people who have broken their addiction and are free. So it can be done.

I have been visiting this site for several months now and wanted ever so much to join…but always put it off because of the strong feelings guilt and shame I also feel. I suppose I’m a bit of a hypocrite.. telling you not to feel shame... but then there’s me feeling deeply ashamed and disgusted in myself. Truth be told, I really hate myself sometimes, and hate the way I’ve let myself down. Sometimes feel the only thing I’d be good for is a hanging rope.

Your cramps sound scary. How bad are they? Only thing I can say is the body can recover and repair itself, if helped. I know that cramps can sometimes be a way for the liver to cope with the toxicity levels, so possibly it could be a sign of the body trying to fight it?!?. Are the cramps a constant thing? Damn, I really don’t know what to suggest.

So far I haven’t had any cramps or pain, but I’m scared that it’s round the corner, someday soon. For that reason, I have created my own detox plan, which I’ve been following for 5 months now. So far it has worked much better than anything the drug clinics, doctors have done for me. Over past 5 months, I’ve gone down from 70 tablets to 42 tablets, and my body is okay with it, because I’ve been doing it very slowly… 1 tablet every 6 or 7 days. Am determined to keep it up and not fail this time. I maybe going on holiday in August for 2 weeks with some friends, and seriously I don’t want to be taking 18 packets of N+ with me. That would be truly awful. I want it to be a chance for me to have some fun for a change, and not worry about how many tablets I need to swallow or the damage it will do.

Please Jane, be careful with going higher and higher. Try to go back to 48 tabs a day if you can? Maybe go 1 or 2 days without any N+, and then on 3rd day test yourself on the 48 level. Just a couple of days abstinence may be enough to make 48 tablets effective/potent again? I understand the need to cope with life, things can get pretty miserable, but please be careful. You’ve gotta do what feel and know works for you. I’m here for you whenever you want to talk my friend. Take care Jane.

James :)

Posted by: Travelin man January 7, 2015, 2:50 PM
Hi Jane- let us know how you are doing- i hope you are doing ok.

Posted by: Lulu199 January 8, 2015, 4:59 AM
4 days clear of n+ and through the worst of withdrawals, Jane how horrible for you! Let us know how your going

Xx

Posted by: Lulu199 January 8, 2015, 10:48 AM
Papa bear I have just read your response. The nature of my job means I have to be by law perfect everyday, I can't be known to have any problems. It might sound strange but I look after vulnerable people. I have never ever put myself in a position where I can't look after anyone but if they think I am unable to work I will be put under investigation. I have to go to the docs this week. I haven't told them about my addiction and I'm not sure I will but I do know that I'm severely depressed. I have been for around 10 years and me and my who thought we could manage with no anti depressants because the n+ was making me feel numb. I hate this drug with everything I possess now and when I'm finally clear and able to handle myself I would like to help others. For everyone on them YOU CAN fight this YOU CAN BEAT THIS! I made myself go to the chemist today one I'm not known and could have easily bought them but I looked at the packet and said F YOU! I'm 4 days in but never have I been so determined. Thank you to everyone on this site for your advice, your kicks up the bum! You truly have helped save me

( I had to vent sorry)

Posted by: Travelin man January 8, 2015, 11:08 AM
HI Llu - good for you-well done- we all have to find what works for us in our battle with this disease there is no on size fits all when it comes to recovery- as long as it helps you to stay clean, stick with it- stay strong and stay clean-

Posted by: tryinghard2 January 15, 2015, 5:05 AM
Hi everyone, im very new to this forum...finally grew some balls to talk (even if it is on a computer) about my addiction...reading everones journey makez me feel less alone in my own battle..50-60 n+ tabs daily...taken on lots of never no more than 10...2 boxes a day I need...im from australia...I see we have people from everwhere here....so down to buisness...im sorry if I make no sense im at the end of my first day cold turkey...I havent had pills since yesterday lunch...its now 8pm australian time so its been 32 hours... all I can I say is I need a hit....the cravings are unbearable.....my legs are aching to the extreme....did I mention I just found out I was pregnant☺....now there is no turning bavk for me...this baby deserves a chance at a drug free start, and im going to give it.....I have been here before 2 days I lasted...all it takes is the smallest set back and bam...back to the chemist..this time I have more will power...I want rid of these pills...I WANT MY LIFE BACK......id love to know of a support group... where I am that may be active...talking about this is help.ful...anyway time for bed..work.tomoz...and another day of wds to get thru....

Posted by: Lulu199 January 15, 2015, 6:45 AM
Hi hun!
How are you feeling today? Your baby will be ok through this! You will be ok!
Your guna have some tough times but you have a reason to fight it!


Lou x

Posted by: Dominic G January 15, 2015, 7:17 AM
Hello.

I too had an addiction to the drug of Nurofen Plus. It's very addictive, due to the Codeine element within the drug.

I had a nervous breakdown in 1998 and began using Nurofen Plus as a way of blocking out my emotions. It began in small quantities and got to the point where I'd consume nearly 100 of Nurofen Plus tablets in one day.

During my addiction, I had to travel around to Chemists in order to get Nurofen Plus as I'd get refused the sale of these and I had bought them recently from the same Chemist. I had to have an Endoscopy, as I had, at one point, 12 Ulcers on my Stomach. I still carried on taking the Nurofen Plus tablets, in spite of this.

Eventually, Doctors recognised this as an addiction. I was also placed onto a maintenance script and was prescribed Subutex, which is an alternative to Methadone. I also began attending group meetings, initiated by my drug worker and I also attended Narcotics Anonymous.

These days, I am studying for an A Level in Maths and an A Level in Further Maths and I'm returning to University in October 2015.

Nurofen Plus is very addictive and dangerous when taking an overdose. All I can say, is that: Try and get yourself onto a maintenance script and attend regular meetings with your drug worker. Also check out the Narcotics Anonymous website and look for local meetings in your area.

http:www//ukna.org/meetings-search

If the meetings are quite far away, please ask yourself: How far would you have to travel to score Drugs?

In the meantime, good luck and god bless.

Regards
Dominic G

Posted by: tryinghard2 January 17, 2015, 6:21 AM
Hi Lulu... my pregnancy failed..im doing ok tho..im still not using so im on day 4 of no pills..feeling a little heavy and not sleeping well...but im managing to move around and function for my kids..its been a hard, hard 4 days..some of the hardest i have been thruand i have a monster of a headache, hopefully the worst of the wds are coming to an end....but im here...thanks for your kind words..

Posted by: Lulu199 January 25, 2015, 6:06 AM
Tryingto hard I'm so so sorry for you, I'm so sorry I haven't been on earlier to see it I haven't had the best few weeks, I've started taking them again and smoking. I haven't smoked for months. I'm getting tests at the mo but need to go back onto antidepressants they think I have a chemical imbalance in the brain. Tomorrows a while new day for me hopefully. I'm so sorry for your lose and what your going through. Stay strong and I'll try and be on more xxx

Posted by: Travelin man January 25, 2015, 12:00 PM
Hi Lulu, sorry to hear you are struggling- dont give up- it took me many attempts before i got it- go back to doing what worked for you before-consider posting more regularly for support- you cant have to much, especially starting out- get back on the horse Lulu YOU CAN DO THIS- learn from where you fell off the last time and be prepared to deal with similar circumstances if they occur again- stay strong- keep reaching out- DO NOT GIVE UP- best of luck-

Posted by: claire January 27, 2015, 4:39 AM
Hi all, I'm new to this post but not new to n + addiction.
For me it's been only a year. But a year too long.
I don't have much to say in regards to recovery as I am currently in the process. Only day 2. But what I will say is come clean. Too those u love and your Dr. I did this recently and the weight of holding this secret has lifted so much. I think part of the battle is the secret it holds over us. We all want to be clean. We want to not be addicted. But we r addicts. U can either be an addict I'm secret or you can own it. Today I am owning it. Be brave. Tell the ones u love. Be honest with yourself. It doesn't change the fact your an addict. But if u really want to be clean. Come clean.

Posted by: Lulu199 January 29, 2015, 2:30 PM
Hey travelin man! Thanks so much for your support! Tomorrow hopefully is Guna be day 1 AGAIN!! I started anti depressants and sleeping tablets today, I'm hoping with a full nights sleep tomorrow won't be so bad! My head is such a lonely place to be at the moment, I can't see any good in anything.

Tomorrow will bring good things 😁

Posted by: Travelin man January 30, 2015, 1:40 PM
Hi Lulu- i'm glad you are not giving up hope- get out of that lonely place-your head-it's the most dangerous place we can hang out-talk to someone -come on here and post- go tp AA or NA- whatever works but dont dwell in your own head with your own thoughts- i always found that such a dangerous place- lonelyness comes from isolation in alot of cases, including mine- do not isolate yourself- best of luck with day 1-we have all been there-hang in there Lulu - it will get better and so will you- YOU CAN DO THIS- keep us posted-stay strong LULU-

Posted by: Fedup family February 7, 2015, 10:11 PM
Hi Jane! Please don't take Endone! They are horribly addictive! You think you have problems with neruphen plus, it doesn't hold a candle to Endone! The side effect are far worse and withdrawal is extremely painful not to mention what they do to your mental state! I'm not saying stick to neraphen plus they destroy your body! For me, the only real cure for my addiction was "COLD TURKEY" substituting medication never works! Fill your days and evenings with things to keep you busy! Surfing the net, playing computer games, reading and studying part time can help switch the part of your brain off that constantly craves the fix! Yes! The mornings are the worst! But you can prepare yourself for that! What worked for me? A hot shower straight out of bed! Black coffee followed by a carbohydrate full breakfast! Bacon, eggs,white toast with butter, full fat milk! "Yuck" yes I know! But it worked for me! I never have more than a cup of coffee for breakfast usually so it was very difficult for me to get stuck into that kind of full fat breakfast!! Eat Lots of fresh fruit and vegetables and "red meat" no alcohol" for some reason my brain and body were able to better cope with the withdrawal symptoms! I followed this routine for 10 days and it has now been 16 months since I last took any kind of drug! I feel great! My mind is clear! And my family has a healthy happy mum and wife back! I have tried many other ways of beating my addiction to Endone and neraphen plus and codeine! Like you, tried other medications including muscle relaxants (equally as bad as codeine) always to end up back on codeine or Endone! It worked for me! Oh yes! PRAYING for strength each and every day and night had a lot to do with it as well!! 🙏

Posted by: Gemini2 February 23, 2015, 12:57 PM


Hi Everyone

I have wrote on this Forum before a long time ago, I had stopped taking a huge amount of Nurofen Plus but sadly went back to them. I got really ill last month (from taking these horrible tablets) so I had no choice but to stop them and today I am around 5 weeks clean. Thrilled with myself as these have robbed me off many years of feeling normal.

To everyone trying to stop, just take your time and do what you feel comfortable doing. if it means just cutting down thats what you do.

Whatever you do don't wait until your body gives in like mine did, and it will happen, we cant take these tablets long term without some damage to our system.

Thinking of everyone on this site and if anyone needs any help with detox or advice just ask me, I have done it many times and know how difficult it can be.

Thanks

Gemini2


Posted by: tryinghard2 February 26, 2015, 12:17 PM
Hi Gemini... 5 weeks is just amazing...i cant see that far a head yet. Im suffering insomnia terribly.. and cant wait to be able to sleep thru the night... its 3am here in Australia, and I just cant sleep..
Its great to be able to read peoples stories where they are really winning.the fight...gives me so much hope...

Posted by: Papa Bear February 26, 2015, 3:49 PM
I was at my AA meeting this morning,
I sat with my friend Bill before the meeting started and we visited.
I like Bill, he is over 40 yrs clean/sober and I feel "in good company" with him. He is a mentor.

Bill will be the first to tell you that he doesn't have sobriety down pat, he isn't "cured".

What Bill (and I) has is a daily reprieve if we work our AA/NA programs.

The only "making up my mind" and "willpower" we use today is to get on our knees for a prayer and to get to our meetings regularly.

My friend, John, said the other day at the meeting that he came to AA when he was 24 yrs old but didn't come TO STAY until he was 51yrs old. He's been sober for years now (ODAAT)
For 27 yrs he tried to do it on his own with periods of clean/dry followed by worse times of drugs. booze and despair. nearly dying.
He started "winning" when he surrendered 7 years ago.

I knew I was a drunk when I was 16yrs old and came to recovery for good at 45 yrs old.

Many times in those 29 years I thought I had it made

If you guys & gals are going to "bet your life" on somebody's advice "please" be sure they know what they are doing.

Please follow what you NEED to follow... not what sounds good on the surface.
Ask and investigate.

I have no dogs in this fight, I am handing down to you what was freely given to me in 1989 by good oldtimers who cared about me.

I wish everyone the best.

Bob R

Posted by: the glen April 23, 2015, 4:26 AM
cannabis can really help in the short term to alleviate withdrawal symptons when coming of N+

Posted by: Christie June 16, 2015, 2:07 PM
Hi im a 37 yr old female and im addicted to panafen plus and have been for over 10 years, i used to take 20 tablets in one go 4 to 5 times a day until the restrictions came into effect a few years ago, so i now was taking 8 to 10 tablet 4 to 5 times a day to the equivalent of a box and a half of panafen plus 30's, but im now entering day 2 of detoxing off it with my doctors help and support, im hopefully not alone on this journey as codeine addiction in Australia is huge, and id love to know how ppl cope with the withdrawal, headaches seem to be my worst so far

Posted by: almosthome June 16, 2015, 2:50 PM
I would recommend the same as my doc did. 2x panadol rapid, and 2x nurofen zavance. taken at the same time. Obviously the ones without the codeine haha. But yeah the other thing for me is/was water. as soon as you get low on fluids you get headaches. for the other symptoms like the aches and muscle stuff try jumping in the shower or bath and let the hot water do its work. It may only help for a little while but when it gets really hard, its better than nothing you know? I dunno if that helps but it's all I got. Oh and I started a thread on this site just to sort of journal my progress and get feedback from people, and that has made a world of difference at times. so yeah good luck with it all, and I hope you make it. ;)

Posted by: Elsheen July 22, 2015, 11:34 AM
I have been addicted to Nurofen plus for 7yrs. I,m going to say this, I am a beautiful woman with everything to live for!!! I won't remain this way much longer. My hair has fallen out, I have lost half of it, I have a severe stomach ulcer,I was sent to hospital a while ago with acute aneamia so low it could have caused a heart attack or stroke! I look puffy and i know my kidneys are struggling.I can't do this anymore, I don't care how much it hurts.I have not taken any for 3 days.This forum has become a life line for me, I'm not alone. I can't write much more now, I'm having a dosey phase.

Posted by: Travelin man July 22, 2015, 2:08 PM
Hi Elsheen, welcome - you are far from alone in your battle - day 3 - well done, i know it is not easy - but it will get better -you just need to hang in there for the next few days, you should then be through the worst of the WD's - keep posting here for support - i found it really helpful when i was going through WD's - we are here to help - YOU CAN DO THIS -stay strong - all the best -

Posted by: Andy August 19, 2015, 9:25 PM
Hi Jane
I know it's three years on but i wondered if you managed to conquer your nurofen plus addiction. I too am addicted and I need help. I am Andy from the UK.

Posted by: Andy August 19, 2015, 9:33 PM
Hi Elshen
How are you doing? I need to start conquering my np addiction. I don't know where to start. It began about 18 months ago. A pharmacist recommended them to deal with my frozen shoulder. Now I am on 64 tablets a day. It is a true nightmare. My GP wasn't any help and I can't tell my family. My son would be beside himself if he knew. I work most days so can't even take a break to recover. What do I do? I managed to get hold of codeine phosphate but that just makes me feel worse... drowsy all the time. I have to travel miles to pharmacists who won't remember me as some have already refused to sell it. It truly is a living nightmare. When I try to stop taking them, it's extremely hard to function... I shake, my head is muzzy and I can't concentrate. i am a teacher and need toi pop at least 16 before I can function. Feel better for typing this. Thanks to anyone who takes the time to read this x

Posted by: dee August 23, 2015, 6:03 PM
Did anyone get an awful feeling in the arms and legs.. like you cant stretch them out enough.. very restless7

Posted by: Kiki August 29, 2015, 3:24 PM
Hi dee,
I'm Kay , I'm in day three without np and I just want to be done with them, I hate them, I just want to be me again,

Posted by: clean September 30, 2015, 11:36 PM
Hi everyone it makes me sad to read all these posts as ive been off n+ for 7 months and know what youre going through i used it for 6 years +- 70 tabs a day. Then decided enough is enough but hell does not come near what i went through. All i can suggest is tell a loved one your secret as every bit of support helps and every time you feel like crap from withdrawls remind yourself that this is why you want to stop. The first 3 weeks are hard feeling depressed and cold and like someone said it feels like you cant stretch enough. I promise you once youve got over the worst you'll realize it was worth it but i do beleave you need someone pref a partner as support that is a very hard thing to do ( confess) but that way you'll have something to prove. I've tried the weening thing but that is just conning yourself take a few days and decide on a day to stop and stick too it i wish i could play it all back to people trying to stop just so they could see how worth a few weeks of hell payes off and knowing what ive gone through for the last few years has put me off tablets completely from the time i started withdrawls i told my partner, i wish i could help people with the same problem because the doctors did'nt want to help me. And i do know how lonely and scared you feel. But once you're free it feels a million times better and worth a few weeks of hell. If there is anyone in west sussex or norfolk that needs someone to try and help i'll be more than will to be a shoulder to either cry on or to help see you through the tough patches.

Posted by: SkunkWorks October 2, 2015, 4:52 PM
haven't had time to read thru all the posts but people you must MUST must coldwater extract out the godawful nsaids that are killing you slowly. Not worth dying for a lousy codeine hit it really isn't.
Search 'coldwater extraction' and SAVE your livers, stomachs, bowels, pancreas', etc because ibuprofen can and does kill people over a prolonged spell of over-use.
Coldwater extraction takes an hour or so and will save your liver by removing upto 90% of the poisonous ibuprofen they put in just to stop you abusing the codeine :(
The makers - Reckitt Benckiser, - the pharmacists and GPs (via lack of comprehension) are all complicit in this, as indeed is the addict.
Most people once they have an opiate addiction monkey on their back will find it very difficult to control the little b****** so DAMAGE LIMITATION chaps and chappesses, codeine is NOT worth dying for, it's s***.
Peace and no nsaids,
SW.


Posted by: Stephen October 12, 2015, 4:21 AM
Hi guys I'm not sure if anyone still uses this form but I have been reading all the previous posts because I am sitting here on my first day of accepting I had a problem and have had to quit. I currently take about 50 nurofen plus tablets a day and can't handle the guilt of hiding it from my partner or the financial trouble it leaves me in. I am going to my doctor today but I'm terified about the next few days as. I'm currently on medication for depression so I'm worried that this will have an effect on my mood!! Any advice would be appreciated.

Posted by: Aleksandra87 October 16, 2015, 2:38 AM
Hi everyone,
for a 2 weeks I am reading here and getting straight to say something.
I been addicted to Panedine Extra for 6 years. My husband didn't know any of this, he would watch me sleep as soon as I touch pillow, moods changing, I would have a difficulties going to the toilet..... Then I manage to stop that, for a 2 years, because we where trying to get pregnant. We already have 8 year old boy. When I stoped Panedine Extra it was only 5 days and I was fine. But after 2 years for trying to get pregnant I lost all my hope that I will be mum again, and I was back on tablets. But this time I was back on Nurofen Plus. And again I was laying to everyone. I was laying to myself. I taught its a less addictive, and it will be easy to get off them. But boy I was wrong. On 2nd f October I found out that we are pregnant. We are pregnant only 6 weeks. that moment when positive lines came up, I stoped taking my tablets. I read on internet that I should be doing cold turkey when pregnant but didn't want to do it any other way. I am working full time as well, having a 8 year old boy, and a husband. I had to come clean to my husband. Disappointed into his eyes, where more to hurt me then any words. At this point I was more worry about baby then me. I was pushing it. I had baths every 2 hours, I would put cream for pain in joints, I would be vomiting.....everything plus symptoms for been pregnant. I am still pregnant, I have ultrasound tomorrow morning. I am praying to GOD that everything is fine. If it is not, I know I would be blaming myself.
I know I can do this, but its still hard. its been 2 weeks now, and I will have problems with legs and sleeping. But focusing on pregnancy and baby I don't have time for a tablets any more. Saying that I am not sure if I am not pregnant that I would stop using them usually abusing them.
Remember, its a long journey but on the end it is good journey You might don't see it that way now, but it will get better.
I know it will for me and my family.

Posted by: Papa Bear October 16, 2015, 8:23 AM
NA will be there for you if you need them. Good luck.

Bob

Posted by: rose November 3, 2015, 3:56 PM
My younger sister is 17 years old and is in year 11 and very smart girl and intelligent . Has been taking nurofene everyday . I told my mum but she doesn't seem to be taking a intrest and it concerns me because she is bothered and taking Nurofen ro release whatever she is feeling or going through . I love my sister so much and I don't want her doing anything stupid . Does anyone whose taking so much Nurofen , have seen things or hear voices. Please help me to try and help my younger sister . Plz

Posted by: Papa Bear November 3, 2015, 7:53 PM
Rose, have your sister post here.

Posted by: littlerose January 13, 2016, 5:14 AM
Day 3 today. I have been wanting to get off these for a while.
I am getting married in July and I just can not bear the thought of not being my self on my wedding day...or having to take them on my wedding day!
Also I am turning 30 next month.
Not feeling too bad - had some pains in my knee but it has been very cold here. Also I am allowing my self to take a little day nurse in the morning (only one dose) so I can get through work.
I have thought about coming off these before but not really tried. I started taking them for a bad back a few weeks ago. Only about 2 months ago I started taking 4 at a time. About 3 times a day. I scarred my self which is why I decided to come off them...then I saw this page.

Posted by: X1 February 13, 2016, 1:00 PM
Hi,

I've been taking NP weekly but it has not escalated to the degree of some people on here. I'd typically have 12-16 tablets per week, usually 2-4 per day and none at the weekend. I can't think how long for but it must be 3 years I've been doing this now.

Reading the stories has really hit it home for me. I fear my urge to go out and buy more is increasing, which will spiral out of control like it has for many on here.

It all started with shoulder pain for me and the NP helped me sleep at night aswell as numbed the pain.

I think others are in my situation, working hard, have families go out and socialise. The NP takes the edge off, work stress is calmed for example. It would seem to be the average persons drug of choice.

To combat the urge I'm going to exercise more, the aim, do something everyday, mainly running. I feel great after a run, I can get the feeling naturally without codeine. The worry about damaging my body is also starting to outweigh my need for NP hence me surfing forums and side effects online.

If anyone reading this is similar to me, please try to stop taking it and don't be afraid to talk to your family about it.

Posted by: Papa Bear February 13, 2016, 2:04 PM
Addiction/alcoholism is a progressive disease and many of us are helpless to see/address/stop the progression.

I knew "there was something wrong" when I was 20 yrs old but it took me to 45 yrs old to hit bottom and surrender - to admit that I was powerless.

The bottom line is we have to hurt enough (if you are a true addict/alcoholic) to admit defeat and ask for help*

*(many of us have asked for help but few of us listened and did what we were told)

Good luck.

Bob R

Posted by: Cassie April 27, 2016, 1:46 AM
Hi ... I have been reading your posts and am wanting advice on dealing with my codeine addiction. Want to seek help but am ashamed to admit problem and be labelled an addict. Have been using for 6 years .. Usage has increased gradually .. Tried stopping cold turkey but the stomach cramps, painful legs and nausea always beats me to return to usage just to feel normal. I have an addictive personality and have used other drugs in my past. Advice please someone ...

Posted by: Michelle May 13, 2016, 5:02 PM
Hi my name is Michelle I'm 53 years old, and I can't remember the last time I wasn't addicted to something. Fairly colour filled past alcohol, speed and heroin just to mention a few and now horrible nuro plus. I've been taking around 40-50 a day, first thing in the morning to start my day. I tried 2 weeks ago to go on Soboxine but had a really bad reaction to it weaning off is not for me so I've decided to go cold turkey. I have about two weeks of holidays I'm taking so I can hide at home. I start day one tmrw. I'm not scared but I am fiercely determined to quit and realise without a shadow doubt this is going to be tough. I have no choice I'm at the end of the road with nuro plus and I guess this is the best place to start. I've decided to post on this site my journey thru the haze of withdrawal in hope that it might help someone else. I want to thank previous people who have posted on this site you have given me the courage to make a start " to quit". Wish me luck. M

Posted by: Michele May 15, 2016, 12:51 AM
Hi it's Michelle here day one, I woke up after going to bed 9.oopm at 11.30 pm and just prayed that I could get back to sleep. I did. It was weird leaving my bedroom before swallowing 30 nuro plus before greeting the world in a matter of two hours I was really tense and in tears. ( I did say that I knew this would be tough). I had to help my husband with a tender and I needed to extend my ability for this usually it would okay but I failed miserably and we had to pay someone to come and help. It was then that I decided to have a few glasses of wine to take the edge of. Something tells me that I'm not being to smart doing this but the tender was a 6 hour ordeal. Should have just said no to start with. Lesson learnt
I ache a little and that is okay but it is my emotions that are driving me nuts today. I need to rest and ride the rest of the day out. My husband is a very caring man and understands only to well the come down of drugs. I've decided not to drink anymore wine I've had one glass and can feel the release of stress coursing thru me. I've over done things to day with working on a 6 hour tender. Will just rest and be done with this day. Michelle

Posted by: TB May 15, 2016, 2:52 AM
Hi Michele,

I too am withdrawing at the moment, I'm down from 22 a day to 8 currently. I'm not doing it cold turkey but just reducing it this much has brought on withdrawals. Headaches, terrible aching/painful legs, sleeplessness. I've found that pressure stockings help at night with the legs as well as pumping in the magnesium through foods and vitamin tablets. Not sure where I am going from 8 but would like to keep up with how you are doing whilst I also go through it myself.
How are you doing now?

Posted by: Michelle May 16, 2016, 5:30 PM
Hi it's Michelle here to sick yesterday to post and not feeling the better today I ache from head to toe. Imodium is not helping my stomach I havnt eaten in two days but will force myself today. Wanted to run out and get pills yesterday as this is not easy. You say you have started with reducing I suggest keep going just keep going. I don't know if this is a better way or not but just stick with your choice and ride it out. Take care.


Posted by: Papa Bear May 16, 2016, 6:55 PM
If you can walk away and stay quit then go for it.

If you find that you are powerless in the end, then come to AA/NA as millions of us do.

Good luck.

Bob R

Posted by: Michelle May 17, 2016, 5:06 PM
Hi it's Michelle here well here we are at day four 7am Melborne Australia. Thanks for your post papa bear. I intend going back to the rooms of AA once my strength is back. I started taking nuro plus to manage hangovers and still be able to go to work 6-8-12-15-20-30-45-50 all in a space of 12 months which is how long this nuro addiction as been apart of my life. Being in AA is the only kind of sobriety I've ever experienced and I loved it. But getting back to the withdrawals last night I wanted to run and scream my legs and stomach and just everything was screaming for a hit of something. Up and down like a yo yo in and out of sleep. Too anyone this is indeed hard but for the sake of feeling like your dieing so that you can live again this just has to be worth it. I really hope day four is not like day three or two I'm praying that I come thru the other side of this and start to feel better. Have a good day Michelle

Posted by: Michelle May 18, 2016, 5:44 PM
Hello it's Michelle here day five and I want so much to cave. I've had no sleep I can't eat and I ache from head to toe. I just want it over with. I don't know if I will make it today. But will try. M

Posted by: Papa Bear May 18, 2016, 6:49 PM
"Being in AA is the only kind of sobriety I've ever experienced and I loved it."

You are saying that in the past tense. Did you leave AA ??

I strongly suggest you get back to the meetings .. they will save your life.

All the best.

Bob R

Posted by: TB May 19, 2016, 8:37 PM
I'm sorry I've been a bit MIA - I've got down to 4 N+ now and its been hard! I plan to be off entirely this time next week, fingers crossed. I'm still trying to work but its been hard. Michelle - how are you doing today? You still on track and are you starting to come out the other side yet? I admire your strength. I too am in Melbourne. Have you linked in with any services at all to help - either after you've come off or to help if you're back on? I anticipate i will need some one on one help to ensure i stay on track once I'm completely off. I do hope you're doing ok.

Posted by: Michelle May 31, 2016, 5:48 PM
Hi Michelle here, I wish I could say that I feel great this is week three with no nuro plus I tried to go back to work this week lasted four hours the first day back on Monday and only two hours yesterday, and have decided to take the rest of the week off. If I get fired I get fired I just don't care. I'm still lathargic and have no motivation I believe that their is always a certain amount of depression that comes with giving up anything that the body has come to depend on. I felt like screaming about an hour ago as I just want to feel well. I'm sorry if this information isn't up lifting but this is my journey thru this. I'm okay for a few hours but then go down in a soggy heep of exhaustion. I'm taking double doses of electrolytes magnesium and eating as healthy as I can. I rang a few drug and alcohol places and they all wanted to sign me up for Suboxone (f$&@) that. Swapping one drug for another I've done in the past from heroin to method one and reduced of that 18 months later, I was just stoned on something else. The withdrawal from the methododone was worse than this cold turkey off nuro plus. But hey each too there own. In response to your query papa bear I did stop going to AA but in the past two weeks have managed a few, will endeavour to get back to daily meetings as my energy levels raise themselves up. Just keep going no matter how you choose to get of his nuro plus. Good luck and God bless. Michelle

Posted by: Sneezy June 13, 2016, 2:16 AM
I was addicted to n+ for about 11 years. In the end I was taking up to 32 tablets a day, 8 at a time. I was questioned at a pharmacy on 31st March this year and I thought, that's it. I went straight to the doctor and told him everything. He gave me a script for 10 Valium 3mg. I was to take them to help me sleep. April 1st I took 7 n+ in the morning and 6 that evening. By April 2 I was sick. The diarrhoea stomach cramps and restless leg were bad. I told my mum the truth 2 days later. I could not eat but I drank lots of water. My husband works away and I have two teenage children, they didn't go to school that week. Mum would get me out on walks which helps so much. I haven't taken n+ since. I was on lexapro 10mg already for anxiety this was upped to 20mg to help with the depression. It's hard, but not impossible, it's unpleasant but not unbearable. Do it, take the jump and stop. Imagine no chemist shopping! It was the first thing I thought of every day. If anyone has anything to ask me, I'm here. I was glued to this thread during my dark days of wd, it helped. Ps. I'm called sneezy because since day 1 of no n+ I've been sneezing constantly! What's that about?

Posted by: wayne June 14, 2016, 1:48 AM
I WAS GLAD I CAME ACROSS THIS PAGE.IT WAS GOOD TO KNOW IM NOT ALONE WHEN IT COMES TO NUROFEN PLUS ADDICTION.i WAS ON THEM FOR ABOUT A YEAR STARTED OFF AT 5 A DAY THEN PEAKED AT 50 A DAY.I HAD A VERY SICK STOMACH I FOUND MYSELF GETTING AGRO MORE AND MORE AND THE NUROFEN WASNT REALLY DOING ANYTHING FOR ME AND I WAS TO SCARED TO TAKE ANYMORE.FINALLY IT CAME TO A HEAD AND I DECIDED TO QUIT COLD TURKEY.I WAS SICK OF LYING TO MY WIFE AND FRIENDS TRAVELLING VAST DISTANCES TO DIFFERENT CHEMISTS.SO I TOLD MY WIFE WHAT HAD BEEN GOING ON AND SHE WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE.THE WITHDRAWL SYMPTOMS WERE UNBELEIVABLE NO SLEEP FOR 6 WEEKS DRENCHED IN SWEAT EVERY NIGHTAND I DID IT IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER SO I USED TO LAY AWAKE FOR HOURS COLD AND WET.THE DEPRESSION WAS INTENSE THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE WERE RAMPANT SO I WENT ON ANTI DEPRESSANTS FOR ABOUT 2 WEEKS AND THEY DIDNT HELP SO I QUIT THEM AND THAT MADE THE SYMPTOMS WORSE.I COULDNT THINK OR REMEMBER THINGS FELT WEAK NO ENERGY THE WHOLE THING TOOK ABOUT 6 WEEKS TO GET OVER SO I WISH ALL YOU FOLKS THE BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR QUEST TO GET OFF THE NUROFEN PLUS

Posted by: pebbles June 15, 2016, 12:17 AM
Hi guys iam in Australia and as you prob know the new laws chemists are linked so it is harder to get them ,im just wondering how people are dealing with this having to just stop without a choice ,i imagine there are a lot of people going through horrible withdrawls.i have been taking it for a few years now,started with a bad back then i built upa tolerance took more and more then the chemists shopping started waking up thinking what chemist today ...just wanted to talk to anyone going thru this nurofen plus s*** ...........

Posted by: Knockoutnorma June 15, 2016, 6:41 AM
Hey pebbles. Just in response to your post regarding the new laws in Australia- that was the reason I decided to get help. At the time I felt like I was forced in a position either to get help or start being refused service at pharmacies. I didn't want to be labeled an addict at pharmacies. The first night I realised the new laws had come in and I was going to have to stop taking N+ and get help, I cried all night. I knew I wouldn't be able to do it cold turkey and would have to make an appointment to talk to a gp, since I also knew that I couldn't taper on my own with the new laws in place. But it meant I went onto codeine phosphate, which cuts out the nasty nurofen. It also meant I would have a monitored taper. So after a 7 week taper, I'm now on day 18 of being clean. You can read my recovery diary on here about the things I experienced (for anyone who wants to read it you will need to create login I think). But yeah even though at the time I felt forced to start my recovery journey by the new laws in Australia, I'm very grateful for them. It meant I got the help I needed to start getting better. It doesn't matter what starts you on the journey to get better.

I'm here if anyone has any questions about what tapering was like for me or just needs to talk about their addiction in general. There are a lot of awesome people on these forums who made it out the other side and have a wealth of knowledge regarding addiction and recovery. There also lots more information on the pain pills forum

Norma

Posted by: pebbles June 15, 2016, 9:01 PM
Hi Norma thanks for replying,yes i saw my gp a while back toget help,..I'm glad your off them are you feeling better in yourself about life do you think we change when we are taking the n+ as in socially, life in general i guess..I think there would be a lot of people out there going through hell if they haven;t got help from there gp because the cold turkey is not very nice..I wish all goodluck and health ..Pebbles i will join and have a read of your journal..:)

Posted by: Sneezy June 16, 2016, 2:04 AM
The new record keeping laws in Australia are what got me off them. I'm kind of glad it forced me to make a decision otherwise I don't know what would have happened. I was resigned to just taking them until something went wrong with my health. I tapered off in just one packet there was no point really because as soon as my dose dropped I got withdrawal symptoms. They lasted about a week, I was ill for the first three days. After a week depression set in but I would say that I only had a couple of days when I was truly despondent. It's an awful feeling but it soon passes. Once my Valium ran out after 5 days I was terrified of having trouble sleeping so I took two mersindol a night. Then I reduced it to one. A hot bath with lavender oil in was so good for that restless body feeling. At times I'd have 3 a day. It's so soothing. Look after yourselves everyone, get off those stupid things and get on with life, that first jump is the hard one but I believe if I can do it anyone can xx

Posted by: pebbles June 16, 2016, 4:22 AM
Hey sneezy so glad you got off them ,i am going to make a day this saturday and start i have some diazapan to help sleep if i get sleep while im getting off them it helps..The restless legs yawning and everything else that goes with withdrawing just have to deal with it i have to think i will not be forever...How are you sleeping now ?...Thanks its good to talk to people that have been or are going thru it :)

Posted by: Knockoutnorma June 16, 2016, 8:35 AM
Hey everyone!

Pebbles- Is tapering something you would consider? As you probably know it's not the physical symptoms that suck, it's the mental symptoms. That really hits hard when you go through withdrawal and they can last for weeks, months or even years. I mean we are always going to be addicts- that's just a fact of life now. I found that I had to be brutally honest with myself about why I was continuing to take them. It's a self discovery journey and it's hard. Anyway if you can do cold turkey then that's awesome, just remember to go to your gp if you need help, they should be really understanding, my was at least. Also do you have any support? Someone who knows you have an addiction? I found that to be really important- to have someone know and support you, no matter how many times you fall. I took magnesium for the restless legs and gingko for the mental blankness- both have helped me immensely, but everyone has different ways of dealing. I have changed so much in the last 7 years of being an addict. I used to be outgoing, fun, go-getter and very social. Now I'm an introverted loner that can't seem to have fun anymore. That's what taking the pills has done to me- what I have done to myself. It completely changed my personality- did you find the same thing?

Sneezy- glad to hear you are doing so well! Did you find it a relief to get off of them and not chemist shop? Just quickly I thought I might mention that mersyndol (day and night strength) both have codeine in them. But it sounds like you were able to kick it anyway which is rad. How many days or weeks clean are you? I'm creeping up to three weeks- pretty proud of myself!

Norma xxx

Posted by: pebbles June 16, 2016, 8:17 PM
Hey norma thanks for replying yes it has changed me so much as in socially ,...I know what you mean how mentally it is hardest part so true thats what i find the hardest even tho they are harder to get i am still managing to get them but it has stop before it gets to out of hand ..I did go 2 weeks a while back felt great and driving home i thought i might just go buy a pkt and of course that turned into an addiction again..Norma we are addicts and thats what i have to remember and fight this with everything i have i so want to be free from these bloody pills..Take care great to be talking to someone who knows what i am dealing with Xx Pebbles Xx

Posted by: Knockoutnorma June 17, 2016, 5:22 AM
Hey pebbles,
Have you figured out what your triggers are and why you decided to get them last time? Did you say that you made a date to quit? Are you going cold turkey? It's so hard to retrain your thinking patterns. I mean when you're on pills and having a bad day, you just have more and more and more til it kills you. So bad days become something you need to acknowledge and feel and find other coping methods. It's not going to be easy and it's something you have to live with everyday. It's something that's always at the back of your mind. We are addicts always, even 20 years down the track, we'll still be addicts. There's no escaping that. But we can be clean addicts. That's the hope and the dream. To not let little pills rule our life. For years I kept a list of every pharmacy I would visit and whether I gave my details and whether they were nice or not. I have a list that is literally 15 pages, 3 columns per page with hundreds different dates. Everyday I would sit and plan where I would go and whether I would go to a couple so I didn't have to go anywhere on the weekend. And you know since being 20 days clean all I do is come home everyday straight from work. I don't have to worry about driving far or whether I will be refused. I literally get in my car and come home and it's so nice not to worry. Those sort of things make me happy.

Keep us updated on how you're going and when you decide to come off them. You can do it!!

Norma xxx

Ps. I find it really helps talking to people who understand our addiction too. It means I'm not alone and that other understand the things I can't put into words.

Posted by: pebbles June 17, 2016, 9:53 PM
Hi Norma i am starting today ,i cannot wait fot the day were i can wake up and nurofen + are not the first thing that pops into my head,before these lastest laws came in i always thought what chemist did i go to i would check my bank accounts see the dates i went ,i hated it...But i have managed to still get them family members friends as they don;t know what i take but that cannot go on...Like i said i can't wait to wake up and not have to worry about them...you know and you may be the same i was in hospital for ten days slipped disc sent me home with oxycontin when that had run out didn;t bother me,but because i was having problems still with my back afriend had some panafen plus gave me a couple to take which really helped the pain and also felt good and it went from there,i use to think i have to stop this not realising what i was going to go through when i stopped them..That and the depression is what has stopped me but i know now the time has come i need to do this...Hope you are doing well...Thanks ....pebbles

Posted by: Michelle June 26, 2016, 3:12 AM
Hi everyone Michelle here. It's been close to just over a month since I went cold turkey off 50 nuro plus a day. Wow what a ride, it's just so good not to be on them anymore. I stil have such a long way to go my alcohol problem raised its ugly head and it's only because of my fear of taking nuro to manage the hangovers that I gone back to the rooms of AA, and I feel safe again. The depression that comes with the coming off is slowly reducing I just keep telling myself that this is all apart of it and just walk thru it. Some days are better than others but the daily support of AA makes my life more manageable. It was good to tell my husband the truth about how much I was taking, the lying to myself was one thing but lying to him just made me feel sick. I ended up needing three weeks of work and a previous man on this site said 6 weeks and he is correct to really start to feel better. I am so grateful not to be using or drinking, and I'm glad I found this site. Knowing I wasn't alone in this really helped. Thank you so very much. Michelle from Melbourne Australia

Posted by: Knockoutnorma June 26, 2016, 5:43 AM
Hey pebbles,

How's it all going? Did you manage to stop on the date you decided on? I hope it's all going well

Norma xxx

Posted by: banesh66 July 1, 2016, 3:22 AM
Nurofen plus addiction.........reading all these stories makes me so sad, I've been addicted to codeine for fifteen years and if I wasn't such a big man I'd probably be dead by now. Not alone is the codeine/nurofen plus harmful, lt's bloody expensive. And I've almost ended up a pauper over the dam thing. I live in a small town with five pharmacy's so shopping around is out of the question. One chemist however understood and having been a addict herself years previously offered to help me. She gave me a weeks supply of diazepam and told me to take six nurofen plus a day, plus two diazepam and reduce from six to 2 nurofen plus to none over the second week. The supply of duazepam, 14, counter acted the withdrawals and now from thirty or forty tabs a day I'm down to six after two weeks and when they're gone, that's me finished. I'll never forget that nice lady pharmacists, no judgment, no questions, just a recognition that another human being needed help.....God bless her,

Posted by: wilba July 5, 2016, 12:09 AM
Hey guys sadly know i keep saying everyday im going to do this when that day comes im thinking of a way to get them i know they don't make me feel high anymore or that buzz ,but i have no excuse i have sr tramadol to stop withdrawals and some diazapen to help sleep im just have no will power how do i find will power and to stopmy brain from telling me to get them ,,....

Posted by: wilba July 5, 2016, 12:14 AM
Thanks Norma for asking hope your doing well and well done banesh66 goodluck with your new life off these horrid pills xx

Posted by: Zeusiesmum July 31, 2016, 2:00 AM
Hi guys,

I have been taking nurofen plus and other similar over the counter drugs for approx 5 years and decided to stop cold turkey 5 days ago. I am a 33yr old mum of two boys with a loving husband and also suffer from depression which I'm I medication for. I turned to nurofen plus because it was so easy to get and It made me feel calm and happy.
For the last 5 days I have been waking up drenched in sweat and have a very sore belly...but I also feel mentally 'different' down I guess and like my depression and anxiety has come to an alltime high. Does anyone know how long to expect these horrible feelings and thoughts for?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Xxxxx

Posted by: Sneezy August 8, 2016, 8:36 PM
Hi everyone, i hope you are all doing ok. Especially Pebbles, I hope you are over the worst and recovering. As I have found out it is a longish road. I am only just sleeping ok now four months in, I have taken over the counter sleep aids on and off I also took mersindol night time but I would not recommend it it's got codeine in so its a risk. My daughter was prescribed panadein forte last month but guess who took them all! I thought I was being good only taking one or two to sleep at night but before I knew it the pack was empty and I had trouble sleeping again! I have been good since though and I'm taking nothing to sleep now. I think that the mental symptoms are the biggest hurdle, once you can feel better in yourself you can deal with the small negatives. Restless leg for example is easier to deal with now I don't feel so damn low. I get cross sometimes and feel like everything hurts, but I must remind myself it's better than being numb! Really, it is. My hair has thickened up, my face and neck are no longer puffy, I don't get so angry and financially I'm $80 better off each week and I'm not using as much time and petrol driving around the country for chemists. Keep at it everyone it's worth it love and luck xx

Posted by: Irish August 13, 2016, 2:35 PM
Hi all, I have read nearly all of these posts. They go back a long time! Anyway I have been using n+ for nearly 4 years now but I'm now on day 9 of my recovery after going cold turkey : ) my father died back in January 2012 and I didn't really deal with the grieve. A few months after this I had to go to the dentist to get a wisdom tooth removed and I was in agony! I went to the chemist and asked them if they had anything that could help with my pain. The girl working there offered me n+. Before that I hadn't even heard of them! So I started taking the recommended dosage but I was in real pain so I decided to up the dosage. I then discovered that doing this it gave me that warm feeling and the wee high. I loved it! I also found that it numbed the pain of losing my father. About 6 months after that my girlfriend and I went to New York for New Year's Eve. We were there for a week. I was n+ very regularly at this stage but I didn't think I was addicted but by the second day in New York I came down with "flu like" symptoms and that's all I put it down to! I was obviously me withdrawing. The whole week in New York was wrecked! I couldn't leave my bed in the hotel.

When we got back to Ireland I started taking n+ again only this time I intensified my dosage and since then it just snowballed. I ended up taking between 30 to 50 daily and I had to start driving to different towns to get my fix because the chemsts in my town started to notice what I was up to. It's truly an awful way to live!!

Well I have split up with that girlfriend and I am living on my own now and I had 2 weeks off for holidays so I decided to go cold turkey.

I have had every symptom that everyone knows about and I have to say the restless legs and not sleeping is the worst!

All these symptoms have now started to decrease thank god but I still have zero energy and I still sleep during the day and wake up feeling like crap.

The last 3 days I have started lifting weights in my house and listening to music that I love and it seems to make me a bit happier even if just for a while.

My appetite is slowly but surely coming back. I have lost a lot of weight because of this!

I still have stomach cramps and I still have to take Imodium.

I'm not back to work until next Thursday so I'm hoping my energy comes back a bit by then!!

But don't let any of this put any of you off going through c/t!! I think it's the best option!!

Also there's a great YouTube channel that I found really helpful and I even emailed them too, it's called free from hell and also calm support.com. Please check these videos out! The guy who does the videos knows what he's talking about and has some really really good advice!!

Anyway I hope everyone else is doing great and sticking at it!!!

Posted by: cough August 22, 2016, 3:11 PM
Good Luck Sneezy, I am sure it will make your life happier.

I am still in the cycle, with every more pharmacists now refusing to sell to me. I hold down a decent job and to be honest I am a bit scared of going CT.

Taking 32 every morning after my shower and thats me until the next day. Not sure how I am going to get round it. I went to the doctor and they looked at me like I was a psychopath.

Any advice on being able to kick this and still be able to work?

Posted by: cough August 22, 2016, 3:19 PM
Hi All, I just wanted to make an edit about the statement I just made saying that the doctor looked at me like a psychopath.

That is unfair to anyone with mental illness. The doctor looked at me as if she couldn't possibly understand and could offer no more help that advice I go to some form of therapy, which as we all know will mostly only help after kicking the habit to a degree.


Posted by: cough August 22, 2016, 3:32 PM
Hi Zeusiesmum,

The worst of the physical effects should go away after 7-14 days of Cold Turkey, so hang in there please. The mental effects can last longer and vary from person to person. Taking these will only increase any anxiety/ depression you have in the long run as it is a short term fix like all similar.
Good luck, I am sure you will make it - its too scary a thought if we don't.

Posted by: Justanotheraddict January 6, 2017, 4:13 AM
Hello all. So uplifting to read so many stories. I thought I was the only one to succumb to this Vile easily accessed tablet. I was taking 64 N+ per day in 2 32 pill hits per day. I've been on and off with this drug for 4 years. I felt invincible at first but then the side effects of my addiction began to show. Couldn't really hold food down etc. I became a massive liar. When my wife was doing on line banking and seeing these £7 amounts coming out I said they were the vapinhs cigarettes. I would regularly rotate pharmacies. I live in the UK and travel for work so my supply was easy to maintain. This week I decided enough was enough and I am on day 3 of my cold turkey withdrawal. I feel better than I did yesterday. I basically told my wife I had come down with flu, I was also helped as my wife is currently ill too so she understands that I'm feeling under the weather. I'm kicking this for good this time. For me for my kids, for my wife, forever. Good luck everyone

Posted by: Watcher January 18, 2017, 2:51 PM
Hi, I am not a user of NP but have been an addict of an illegal drug so I know what it's like being a slave to something, I have a sister currently in ICU for abuse of codein and ibuprofen. In Australia the OTC lesser form of NP I believe, panafen plus is what she is addicted to. I don't want to scare or discourage anyone. Just inform. We found out she was secretly doing chemist runs, but before that would ask our mother and even siblings to buy it for her. She was constantly leaving and going on drug runs when we started to suspect her addiction and gentally tried to let her know we knew she had a problem and she was making herself sick. We'll she was hiding the boxes and was found Tring to dispose of them we realised it was worse then we thought. We realised her back pain and the yellowish colour to her skin meant she had possible liver damage and the antacids to sooth the stomach weren't working. Anyway that brings us to a few days ago she was admitted with server anemia internal bleeding servearly dehydrated pail and thin. She has possible permanent liver, pancreas damage possible kidney failure, large deseased stomach ulcers...bleeding and massive scare tissue,from earlier damage I'm guessing. We didn't know how bad it was. And she only just told the doctors when they said she will possibly die when they operate she told them the truth about what she took and how many. It was 10 a day, I'm not sure if that's true maybe it is more but this amount of damage from that dose for 5 months straight useand intermittent use for years. She is recovering from the first operation and they want her to be in stable condition to cut out some of her stomach and other affected organs . This drug or the combination of the two is leathal . We had no idea this would be the outcome she almost died and they say possibly still might. If you have a loved one and suspect they have an addiction please don't wait until they are so sick that they could die. I have gone cold turkey off a drug , but I don't know what this will be like for her but at least I have a little idea what she will go through if she makes it through until the next operation. I wish there was more supportand info for this addiction and prevention of it put into place. I hope this information shows how life threatening this addiction is, and gives someone the push they need to quit. Our family love our girl and will help her get through this. We are sad she hid this from us for so long, but have the courage to tell someone, as we just want to help her get better not make her feel ashamed or guilty for her addiction. If you have loving people around you tell them. I hope everyone with this addiction can get better support to get off before they get to this point my sister is in. Thankyou for the people on here that have given me an idea of what she'll be suffering with so I can help her. Life is precious.




Posted by: Lucy April 28, 2017, 4:32 PM
Hi everyone, I am writing to offer support to people that are addicted to neurogenic plus.

I was addicted to these for 6 years, I would take up to 64 tablets in one day! I was once rushed into hospital for a perforated duodenal ulcer, I was really sick but this still didn't stop me from taking them. I then developed severe anaemia and had to have a blood transfusion, I was so poorly, my periods had even stopped.
Anyone who is addicted to these pills should try and stop taking them. I know it's really hard, I have been there myself. I managed by cutting down by one tablet per day, I have been clean since October 2016 and I am fulling much, much better, I can eat without being sick and have so much more energy.
You can get off these pills if you cut back by one pill each day and stick to it, just tell yourself how much better you'll feel once you don't need them anymore. You can do it!! If anyone wants support message me on here.

Posted by: Loz June 11, 2017, 5:10 AM
Hi
I've been really moved by this thread to add my story
I'm 23 & 2 years ago had a severe leg accident 8 months later I had a leg reconstruction... This was 16 months ago... I was a severe codiene- panafen plus addict taking 50 a day; I guess we all have our own ways but for me going into the mental health unit for nearly 3 weeks really got me off it; its now day 26 & I feel invincible... Anyone can do it... Its hard but its worth it! If u need motivation read the invitation by mountain dreamer x

Posted by: Robert July 24, 2017, 5:54 AM
Hello All. I have been addicted to Codeine for over 7 years and it got rediculous and scary as I wasn't sure how much damage I was doing to myself physically and mentally. I recently kicked it with help from my Doctor. I feel for anyone who has this addiction as it is a scary thought stop, but, believe me it will be the best feeling ever when you do. I felt like I couldn't live without it and every time I felt stressed I grabbed another packet of Nuerofen plus, but, I was becoming paranoid, depressed and I couldn't face the world. I run my own business and even my business has suffered, worse than that my family have suffered due to my snappy temper and lack of motivation. I am going to talk to a psychotherapist to help keep me on the wagon. At the peak of my addiction I was taking over 60 Nuerofen plus a day, I was struggling to function normally and just wanted the world to leave me alone!!! I am off it now and I feel great!!! It is in my mind that it's is so easy to fall back into the trap, but, with follow up help all will be well. I can't go back to the mess I was in. If you talk to someone professional who you feel doesn't understand then go see someone else. I tried to talk to a number of different people who I didn't feel understood my problem, so I was knocked back into the addiction feeling even worse than before. If you are looking for help and feel that the people you are talking to don't get it, move on and talk to someone who does understand. It's not easy, I have been trying to kick it for 2 years, but, please keep trying it will be the best thing you ever do. I know I was there. Even putting my thoughts on paper is a huge release. I hope that this helps someone out there. I know how you feel, but believe me it will be the best thing you ever do.

Posted by: Recovery September 8, 2017, 4:43 PM
Hi all, I have been addicted to N+ for 5 years. I started taking them because I had a wisdom tooth removed.. At the start they seemed brilliant. Like the answer to all my problems. I was grieving the death of a family member. I have tried so many times to kick these horrid things. I ended up spending all my money on them and ended up in financial bother due to my addiction. I even stole from my family which I had never done before in my life. Back in march this year I decided to go my docs to seek help. I found them really understanding and they put me on pure codeine tablets so I could taper off them. That didn't work for me, I just started taking these along with N+. I got the codeine tabs of the Docs for about 5 or 6 months. Around when I first went to the Docs I started to lose serious weight and I literally never had any money. My family started noticing the weight I had lost and that I was broke all the time. One of them asked me if I was on drugs and I denied it but they knew something was up but never asked me anything again. I even noticed that I wasn't the same person anymore. My whole personality had changed. I didn't want to bother with friends and family anymore. I turned into a recluse. N+ just fogs up your whole outlook on life. Even though I was taking 30-50 of these per day along with the codeine from the Docs I still remained in my job. Thank god it didn't affect that. Anyway I booked 2 weeks off work at the start of august and I was determined to go cold turkey and that's exactly what I did. I have been through that before so I knew what to expect which kind of helped me. I got tooled up for for fight. The day before I started my withdrawal I bought in loads of Imodium, bananas (for the RLS), paracetamol for fevers, fruit juices, soup, full fat milk for the calories and a few packs of nytols. My withdrawals this time weren't as bad as last years. Although the RLS was worse. I had it in my arms and legs. Sleeping was dreadful or the lack of. I forced myself to eat as much as I could and I forced myself to get out of the house after the 3rd or 4th day when I was a tiny bit better. Fresh air did me some good. I also recommend showering or bathing as much as possible because as everyone knows who went through this, you stink like crazy!! It's weird, it's like this funk just seeps out of you. I just put it down to all the badness leaving my body. So shower as much as possible and have nice smelling clothes and bed sheets for every day because being stinky will just make you feel worse. Listen to upbeat music and watch funny shows. All this helps believe me. I am now on day 31 and I am feeling more normal than I have felt in years. Which is a great thing!! I'm eating like a trooper and I have been hitting the gym like crazy. I have just started to get my financial situation seen too as well. One thing is different this time from all the last times too, I really want to succeed this time. All the times in the past as soon as I was free from them for a short while I thought I had it beat! You can't think like that! If you do you will use again. Every day I treat like a struggle to stay clean and I watch videos from the YouTube channel Calmsupport. I never want to forgot where I came from and state I was in. All this is important to help me succeed in my recovery. If anyone would like any advice on this or my opinion just email me on <removed>




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Posted by: Princessmarniexox July 12, 2018, 4:29 PM
I know this is an old forum but I was just wondering if anyone on here has kicked their habit or know any more forums similartot his but newer? Thanks x