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Methadone Taper Part 2
Overfifty55






Posted: March 21, 2022, 10:34 AM
Good morning:)šŸŒž

Woke up happy. On my second cup of coffee. Itā€™s 5:47am a very respectable time to be up. Itā€™s spring break and the kids are here. Iā€™ve been lonely lately during the day so Iā€™m happy theyā€™re home.

Iā€™ve been methadone free for years. Thatā€™s what this thread is about methadone. Of course itā€™s because of heroin and pills but methadone. Iā€™m not seeing many people choosing methadone much because youā€™ve got to go to a clinic daily usually. Suboxone can be prescribed by a doctor that you see maybe monthly. Just renew script each month. That seems to be more favorable over daily clinic visits. But oh is the feeling different with each choice. I like methadone way better over Suboxone. I felt more normal and even keeled ā€¦well on it. BUT I did do a stint at serenity lane detox hospital unit. They prescribed Suboxone for seven days with a taper included so no withdrawals. Anyway I needed more time to work through the cravings and methadone fit the bill. Iā€™m pro methadone and am thankful it was an option.


Speaking of options here we are in 2022 and so happy I created a methadone free life. Make no mistake I went through everyday sometimes struggling but I persevered. I say that because I didnā€™t care for the already established ways to handle my methadone problem. At that time I was ending the connected chain of opiates and methadone. It was a big deal and I needed medication for my depression. Among other things I needed to see a doctor for. After I got taken care of and properly medicated I could handle a taper.

Well my SIL is up so gonna goā€¦ā€¦ā€¦..Have a beautiful dayā€¦ā€¦ā€¦..my heart goes out to Ukraine šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡¦
Overfifty55






Posted: March 23, 2022, 12:41 PM
Good morning:)

Read a quote somewhere that I like. Saying essentially if you fly solo you have the strongest wings. I donā€™t know why but I liked it. Probably because I fly solo too.

Well itā€™s hump šŸŖ day yippee. My daughter is watching her dads dog and now Iā€™m watching her. My first husband and I are friendly which makes it nice for our daughter. So I have four dogs today. Three big dogs that are male and one medium dog that is female. Happy times. Plus itā€™s spring break so the kids are home. Also friends come over so itā€™s a mad house over here.

Iā€™m methadone free, opiate free and drug free. I donā€™t want it anymore. Thereā€™s no need for any of it because I have created a nice existence. Iā€™m happy with being me and I have forgiven myself for the past. I also would like to say that because Iā€™m older I feel that our generation paved the way for many others to follow. I feel that had I been born later with education maybe I wouldnā€™t of used drugs for so many decades.

It was during this time I followed many paths to get off drugs. I took what I liked from each path and designed my own. I like dealing with professionals and the medical community concerning my well being. Oh I love hearing others and how they deal with things. But really it was just taking one day at a time and not using that needed to happen. Staying put and working on myself. I have great insurance so I took advantage of several programs like in-patient drug treatment, Hospital detox, counseling, a psychiatrist to name a few.

Art therapy and ear buds plugged into my music. I couldnā€™t sleep back then all the time and I used that technique for sanity. The dogs well the Siberian Husky is causing commotion so Iā€™m gonna come back later. I like to post something at least so sorry it got cut short.


Have a beautiful day šŸ¦‹šŸŒ·šŸŒŗšŸŒŗšŸŒøšŸŒ¹šŸ’

Overfifty55






Posted: April 7, 2022, 8:19 PM
Good evening:).

Not much to report except still free of methadone. Doing a check in



Have a wonderful Friday. ā€¦..peace
Overfifty55






Posted: April 16, 2022, 8:26 AM
Enough with the formalities:)

Is everyone doing good?

Iā€™m doing well nothing special but completely drug free including methadone. I thought Iā€™d elaborate so you definitely know my status. Not that anyone is reading this. Iā€™m talking to the wind mostly. Sorry thatā€™s how I feel.

Iā€™m so very grateful living life and enjoying the simple things. Weā€™re celebrating my granddaughters birthday today. Going to BJā€™s for lunch. Love to have my favorite Asian salad. Anyways that for me is what lifeā€™s all aboutā€¦.family šŸ’ššŸ’š

Lots going on in the world to get worked up over. I try and see if I can do anything about it. If I canā€™t then I need to let the day unfold and react after. I donā€™t know if the word react is quite right but you get the gist.

Have a beautiful dayšŸ¦‹šŸ’ššŸ’ššŸ’ššŸ’šsending hugs and positive vibesšŸ¦‹šŸ’ššŸ’ššŸ’ššŸ’š



Overfifty55






Posted: April 17, 2022, 1:36 PM
Happy Easter everybody šŸ‡šŸŒøšŸŒ·šŸ’šŸŒŗ
Overfifty55






Posted: April 21, 2022, 8:14 PM
Hello,

Itā€™s very quiet on here. Letā€™s make some noisešŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰
Overfifty55






Posted: May 7, 2022, 10:23 PM
Good evening:)

Iā€™m methadone and drug free. For me coming on here is like a quick meeting. No hassles no traffic just conversation. Even if itā€™s only one way.

Have a beautiful Saturday and keep it simpleā€¦ā€¦ā€¦..
Overfifty55






Posted: May 13, 2022, 8:32 AM
Good morning:)

Well itā€™s gonna happen. Iā€™m going to be treated for my hep C and itā€™s 99.9% effective for getting rid of it. This is one of my loose ends from my drug use days. Iā€™m kinda scared itā€™s a 12 week drug regiment and Iā€™m concerned with how Iā€™ll feel. Iā€™m doing it in the summer so the nice weather will be a plus.

Iā€™m still methadone free. I have to get blood work on Wednesday and the ball is rolling for hep c treatment. Thereā€™s no beating around the bush. I got it from IV drug useā€¦..heroin. I didnā€™t even know hep c was out there when I was using needles. But low and behold I got it. Really donā€™t suffer from any symptoms. But itā€™s been over 10 years with it and it needs to go bye bye.

I didnā€™t really feel like it was an issue until my doctors appt. I was very emotional and couldnā€™t quit smiling. I donā€™t want to have hep c anymore.

Iā€™m up at the crack of dawn this morning. On my 3rd jumbo cup of coffee. I recently changed one of my mental health medications. Iā€™m just adjusting to it but I think itā€™s better. My mental health is as important as staying free of methadone.

Methadone takes awhile to get out of your body. I would say months if not years are needed for a smooth easy taper. Of course you can jump at anytime the anxiety and restless nights can impact your success. I jumped at 30mg and at 45 days I felt the same as day 1 off of methadone. The ole you gotta go cold turkey didnā€™t sit well with me. Nowadays you can use withdrawal medications for an easier time.

Well Iā€™m starting to wander in my thoughts. Have a beautiful day.

To all the people who have helped me along the way thank you
Overfifty55






Posted: May 19, 2022, 10:54 AM
Good morning:

Havenā€™t posted in a few days so I thought why not. Iā€™m free of methadone. So grateful Iā€™m not taking methadone any longer. Yesterday I went to the pharmacy. The computers werenā€™t working right. I waited in line a good 25 minutes. Our pharmacy is always decreasing hours of operation. I feel so bad for them. They need more help but no one is applying. I would be very nervous getting my methadone these days. I got my methadone from my doctor. I didnā€™t have to go to a clinic for my methadone for years about 10. The thing that happened to me was I went down a milligram a day for 30 days to 0. I was on 30 ml a day in pills. Well I was miserable x 1,000. I lasted about 47 days of cold šŸ¦ƒ before losing my mind. I really went crazy not feeling well and not sleeping. My mental health was deteriorating. I needed professional help and medication. This is the year 2022 and you donā€™t need to suffer. Iā€™m not putting anyone down but seriously why cold turkey? Iā€™ve never succeeded until I went on methadone. Then I succeeded coming off of it. I wouldnā€™t of if I had continued with cold turkey. Itā€™s really cut and dry. Been off for years I donā€™t keep track of the days sorry.

What seriously upsets me is someone who is so set in their ways that they arenā€™t open to progress. I know I canā€™t change someone but it still irks me. Iā€™m definitely someone who keeps up on the newest things. Medical or psychological interests me.

Went and got some blood work done yesterday. Getting the ball rolling on my hep c treatment. Iā€™m not gonna lie Iā€™m a little nervous on not feeling well from the meds..

Have a beautiful day. Remember Iā€™m the same person youā€™ve changed though.
Overfifty55






Posted: June 20, 2022, 9:37 AM
Good morning:)

Well the kids are out of school. Hooray for summer vacation. Well Iā€™m doing great with my hep c treatment. No side effects. This is one of the last things to take care of from my heroin days. Iā€™m very grateful to be given this opportunity to get it cleared up. I was so scared to try my medication because of side effects but none materialized.

It reminded me of taking the leap to no more methadone. All the posts were negative and I was scared. My doctor pulled a fast one and didnā€™t sign two of my prescriptions for methadone when she retired. I had to take the leap I was out of methadone. I didnā€™t have an easy time getting heroin , opiate pills or methadone back then. So I had to quit.

Thank goodness I got off of methadone when I did. The pandemic made things even harder for getting medication. By this time Iā€™d been off methadone for years. Not sure how long off of the stuff I have. I donā€™t keep track of days. Maybe Iā€™ll go to my first post and figure it out. Lol

Iā€™m really thankful I didnā€™t go on Suboxone because itā€™s harder to taper. Or so I figure because of the fact itā€™s in film form not pills.

Weā€™ve had rain for days here. Today the sun is coming and summer might just actually be starting. Iā€™m ready for some nice weather.

Well as you know Iā€™ve been staying at my daughters for years while keeping an apartment. Iā€™m moving in with them and letting my apartment go. Thatā€™s always has been the plan. Anyways July 13th I need to be out. So lots of work to be done. I donā€™t want anything. Iā€™m selling it all. I just got new living room furniture too.

This will free up some rent money and no more gas getting to my house. I donā€™t drive but still itā€™s an added expense. My daughter just got a new job making 30,000 more than she use too. We live well and eat good food. Thatā€™s important for us as a family. I like being part of the family. Iā€™m never gonna start dating again. Iā€™m single and love it. But it does have its drawbacks like being lonely when home alone. Therefore I live with my daughter. šŸ˜ƒ

Iā€™m learning a lot about people. The way people think is ridiculous. Iā€™m sure people think the same about me. Anyways just living and breathing is enough right now for me. Iā€™m accepting of everyone as long as they accept me. Iā€™ve got my own quirks and funny ways to look at things. Iā€™m not a mean person more of a laugher. Not a Karen. Not a sheep. In my opinion nothing is worse than being a mean sheep.

I look at things logically and with science. I donā€™t get all touchy and feely over imaginary books or beings. Iā€™m a feminists dream. I really believe in womanā€™s rights. Any and all references to a women being subservient to a man is not acceptable.

Thatā€™s what Iā€™ve found is my voice in all of this. What was missing from my life was truth. My truth and how I feel about things. Iā€™m definitely not a sheep or a person who shuns. Canā€™t handle the truth so I get shunned. Pure logic has escaped them sheep people.

Well Iā€™m off to my morning routine. Have a beautiful day. I donā€™t care if you donā€™t like what I have to say. Another thing is I donā€™t have to believe what you believe to be helpful in quitting methadone.

Martino






Posted: July 13, 2022, 1:44 PM
Good day..I'll begin by mentioning I have tapered off of methadone twice now, actually once since I'm currently still using exactly 1 milligram per day and close to zero for good.
The first time around I started tapering from about 153 milligrams daily down to zero and it took me a few years.
This time around I started at less than 30 mg and never went above that. I began tapering on day one and have been taking things very slowly ever since. I'm 63 so I don't process things as well as I did at 30.. EVERYTHING slows down inside after a certain age. I've been struggling with 1 for awhile now, but I'm finally getting used to almost zero.

Tapering off of methadone is not the easiest thing you'll ever accomplish, but it is one of the most satisfying and it is something that most anyone can accomplish.
Martino






Posted: July 13, 2022, 2:01 PM
Sorry, my screen started messing up.
Anyway, I've been in several different clinics in 4 different states in the US and they're definitely not all created equally. Some are run by tyrants and some are not. Just don't let yourself get in arguments you can't win. A losing argument in a methadone clinic seldom ends well for you. If it gets really bad go to another clinic even if it means uprooting yourself and even family. I've been through this before.
Anyway, just do what is absolutely required and don't volunteer any information that isn't vital to your own well being. Remember, you are not required to be best friends with anyone at a clinic, staff or patients. Personally I stay to myself and don't associate with other patients. With staff I keep it as a business arrangement. I generally get along fine with staff, but I am not their buddy. Other patients are almost all drug addicts. I used to be one so I know better than tto pal around with them.
Overfifty55






Posted: July 18, 2022, 11:21 AM
Good morning:)

Itā€™s a beautiful July morning. šŸŒ

Iā€™m doing well and still methadone free. I donā€™t even think about it until I come on here. I know Iā€™m a bit of an acquired taste but I really try to be there for others no matter what. Itā€™s part of my charm lol. Iā€™m showing up and sharing my experiences.

Hi Martino how are you doing today? Your story is so much like mine. I was staying at 1mg myself for a bit until I had to make the jump. My prescription ran out and my doctor had retired. Instead of chasing for a new doctor to prescribe it I opted to quit. My highest was 80mg of methadone when I was going to the clinic. I agree with everything you said about it. I wanted out of there and with the doctors permission reduced my dose by 1mg a day until zero. That was way too fast to come off of. So since I wasnā€™t taking methadone anymore I didnā€™t have to go to the clinic. Loved this. Hated the clinic. Spent over 45 days in withdrawals with severe depression. I reached out to my regular doctor. I couldnā€™t continue to live this way.

When I went to see my doctor I could barely move and was in pain. She prescribed 30mg of methadone for pain. As soon as I took a 10mg pill all my symptoms disappeared. So methadone withdrawals last awhile and youā€™ve got to taper slowly thatā€™s
what I learned.

Well I stabilized on 30mg and after awhile I started tapering. I got down to 1mg or crumbles and made the jump. I was so scared the same thing was going to happen after I quit taking the methadone. I had my comfort medication prescribed by my doctor for the withdrawals. Well it all never materialized. I moved slow but was still moving slow on 1mg. What I mean is I had no symptoms of withdrawals this time. Years have passed and still no methadone

I found that when your brain isnā€™t on a lot of methadone you heal. Then your withdrawals lessen. Time is your friend in methadone tapering.

How are you doing at 1mg and how long have you been there? Just donā€™t be scared and push through it. 1mg is nothing. šŸ˜ƒ Anyways love your story and can really relate.

Oh yeah had open heart surgery and still move slow. This was two years ago so Iā€™m pretty sure Iā€™ve got some šŸ¢ turtle in me. Iā€™m 59 and turning 60 next month. For as long as I was on methadone it masks a lot of things. So when I came off of it I felt old and rickety. I still have mobility issues. Iā€™m very slow lol and need to be more active.

So in a nutshell Iā€™m certain you can easily make the jump to being methadone free. šŸ˜ƒšŸŒŗšŸŒøšŸ¦‹

Iā€™ve moved in for good at my daughters. Iā€™m always here and keeping an apt and the bills seems like a waste. After my surgery everything has become harder. I have the support and love of my family. Plus Iā€™m not lonely anymore. With that I bid you farewell. Have a groovy dayā€¦
Overfifty55






Posted: August 3, 2022, 6:27 AM
Good morning:)

I belong or follow several substance abuse sites. All of them are quiet. I believe itā€™s because of Suboxone. Since people can get medication through their doctors they donā€™t come on these site anymore. Heck I donā€™t come here very often either.

Iā€™ve been successful at quitting methadone for many years. I sought out my own regiment to quit with doctors, psychiatrists, art therapy and family. It worked splendidly and I transitioned to not needing methadone anymore. Iā€™m not bound by traditions or rules to follow. I just forged ahead and days turned to months then years then I just quit thinking about it. When I come on this site I try to bring something to the table even if itā€™s just a hi.

I check this site often hoping to connect with like minded people. I donā€™t want anyone to be scared to start their journey. I was petrified to be free from methadone. I didnā€™t want to feel so lethargic. I literally hurt to just sit. Time stood still and I was going crazy. It was nice being able to express myself here. This site and the people helped me so much.

Even if no one posts on my thread thatā€™s okay. Iā€™m more free than most and live a life of honesty. Iā€™m not complicated or bound by a bunch of self imposed rules to follow in life. I think this comes with age. Turning 60 this month. Iā€™m not a young 60 either. My body hurts and I move slow. I didnā€™t realize how battered my body had become with methadone use. Methadone relieves a lot of pain and gives you energy. But that was years and years ago.

It just occurred to me that I might seem like I have a chip on my shoulder. Concerning established methods of quitting like meetings and belonging to a group. Well you might be right. I felt I never fit in over 20years at many different locations of meetings. Iā€™m not a mean person or someone who shares my beliefs really. I go with the flow and really follow all the suggestions given to me. So after giving it a good try many times over 20 years I threw in the towel. Screw it!!! My main goal was quitting so thatā€™s what I did. I realized the program Iā€™d been trying to follow wasnā€™t a good fit for me. What I will say is that when I was younger people were more eager to help. Times were different people were different. This new world and the younger generation take some getting use too.

Thereā€™s no ā€œright wayā€ to being off of methadone. Or right way to quit. Thereā€™s help out there for every kind of person. Iā€™m not an expert except when it comes to myself lol. Already on my second cup of ā˜•ļø. So Iā€™m gonna be talking some more.

I take a statin and just found out one of the side effects is not being able to stay asleep. Waking after awhile of sleeping is happening to me. I got to bed at 8 and usually wake up about 1ish. Therefore I get up and get my mind off sleeping. After a couple hours I go back to sleep till 5 or 6. This has been my routine for many years except after my open heart surgery. I would sleep straight through the night and would take a 2 hour nap too. Love to šŸ’¤ sleep. Iā€™ve never been a sleeper so this was new and very cool. But that has worn off and Iā€™m back to waking up at night. When I lay in bed itā€™s worse because I realize Iā€™m not sleeping. Lol. When I get up I read my iPad play puzzles and drink coffee. Then when Iā€™m ready I go to bed. I have to be careful though because I can just stay up if I want and go back to bed at like 9. Because Iā€™ve never been a sleeper Iā€™m the first one up always. I feed the animals in the mornings and let me tell you they donā€™t let me forget when itā€™s time to eat. Of course bathroom time too.

One thing Iā€™ve noticed is how much damage Iā€™ve done to my body. Methadone was the tail end of my drug use. But I took methadone for many many years. So at almost 60 my drug abuse has manifested itself now in my body. I feel old and move like a šŸ¢ turtle. Iā€™m losing my teeth, my front teeth are gone and my bottom teeth are ready to fall out from gum disease. I have untreated diabetes because Iā€™m just too selfish to quit sugar. I have congestive heart failure. My circulation is bad and my feet are cracked to the meat. Hell I could go on and on about what drugs have done to my body but it kinda gets depressing. Losing oneā€™s looks is very humbling. Oh and as a bonus my hair now is frizzy, thin and falling out from my medications. I also have hep c. Iā€™m now taking medication to get rid of it. As bad as my hair was with this medication it makes it worse.

Well Iā€™m baring all this morning. šŸ‘… Gotta love a caffeine high. So even after years of being methadone and drug free Iā€™m dealing with the consequences still. My body is definitely dealing with my earlier choices in life. I havenā€™t heard or read other posts on getting older and how your body functions. Hell one of my SIL friends whoā€™s 36 had a heart attack two days ago. He dabbled in drinking and cocaine. At 36 a heart attack. During all the years of using I never gave my body much thought. I think more people need to talk about it.

Well Iā€™m done for. Gonna go back to bed. Peace
Overfifty55






Posted: September 5, 2022, 9:29 PM
Hello,

Well My treatment for hep c is over and hep c free. They test me at the 3 month marker for hep c so thatā€™s happening. Iā€™m so grateful that this part of my drug use is over.

Well Iā€™ve went to the dentist because I have a sore on my tongue and my bottom teeth hurt in front. Iā€™m so worried about mouth cancer. Iā€™ve avoided this for well over 6 months. Anyways they werenā€™t too concerned about my tongue so Iā€™m going to my pcp for them to look at. But I have to have 4 bottom teeth in front pulled and itā€™ll take over 4 months to heal before I can get a partial made. Iā€™m very sad and itā€™ll change my life immensely. I really believe methadone affects your teeth negatively.

Anyways wanted to share.

Enjoy the rest of the Labor Day . Peace
Overfifty55






Posted: September 8, 2022, 1:56 PM
Iā€™m sad the Queen has died. This is an important day in history. Still methadone free.
Overfifty55






Posted: October 5, 2022, 6:51 PM
Hello,

Iā€™m getting the run around with my doctor and dentist concerning a sore on my tongue. Iā€™ve had it over 6 months and itā€™s getting worse, it hurts and burns .Anyways Iā€™m doing what theyā€™ve required of me and nothings changed. Over 3 months have passed and they keep saying oh itā€™s not cancer. But itā€™s not going away and I have like almost every symptom of red flags for it being cancer. Iā€™d like to see a specialist so I need a referral. Today I got called because my doctor got me a referral for a mammogram. A mammogram which was never discussed by the way. Then I got prescribed some medication which was sent to the wrong pharmacy. When you check in you fill out a form for what pharmacy they should use. Anyway it was ignored and a pharmacy in another city was used. Now before this I went to the urgent care attached to my doctors office for the same problem Monday morning. My doctor isnā€™t in the office until Wednesday. Well during that visit I wasnā€™t treated very well and he didnā€™t want to answer any questions I had. He looked at my tongue and decided to prescribe me some mouthwash. Anyways my dentist had already prescribed me mouthwash and Iā€™d been using it for 30 days and it didnā€™t help, it was getting worse. Then he walked out without telling me what he prescribed and he said I didnā€™t have cancer. Cancer doesnā€™t hurt. Omg you shouldnā€™t have a sore that lasts more than a couple weeks.

Iā€™m mentioning this because staying calm and even keeled has been me for a long time. Iā€™m starting to unravel a bit and getting upset with the run around Iā€™m getting. A sore tongue and burning mouth doesnā€™t feel good at all. No one seems to car about that part itā€™s just kind of ignored. But today my doctor did prescribe something to numb my tongue a bit. My insurance doesnā€™t want to pay for it so I might have to pay out of pocket. My main concern is it cancer can I get someone to do a biopsy or swab or something?

Life isnā€™t all rosey just because youā€™ve got years of not using. Just because you donā€™t do drugs doesnā€™t mean you canā€™t have a bad day. Or better yet dealing with incompetency and keeping sane throughout. Life can be challenging and downright f***ery from people these days. I usually keep these things to myself but Iā€™m scared and Iā€™m worth fighting for.

Iā€™m advocating for myself. Something thatā€™s hard for me to do. Iā€™m in a funk these days. Iā€™m losing my front bottom 4 teeth on the 12th and then in a month I get a tooth pulled on top and it will render my partial useless. So Iā€™ll have no teeth on the top or bottom front for around 10 months to a year. My gums need to heal which will be 4-5 months. I need 3 other appts for cavities, and 2 more teeth extractions. Then a cleaning. After that lol I get to have a bottom and top partial made. Which is over 6 appts to have it made and fitted. So I definitely have some depression.

This is years after I quit methadone. But I do feel my lifestyle added to the loss of my teeth and gum disease. So I kinda feel like I did when I was taking drugs. Depressed, feeling insecure, reclusive, not talking much etc. Anyways this is a new journey Iā€™m going on. A sad journey with lots of grief over losing my teeth and having partials.

I guess if Iā€™m gonna have a pity party I want to add that after my ohs two years ago my hair is completely frizzy, easily breaks off, wonā€™t keep a curl or straighten, and is thinning. To top it off my hair isnā€™t healthy enough to be dyed so my gray is taking over. Thatā€™s whatā€™s going on in a nutshell.

Iā€™m really hurting and sad.
Overfifty55






Posted: October 12, 2022, 8:06 AM
Good morningšŸ„¹

Well today at 1:00 I lose my bottom 2 front teeth. This is the beginning of my journey and Iā€™m a bit anxious. Of course Iā€™m depressed.

So Iā€™m up very early and unsettled. My mouth stings, my tongue burns and hurts horribly. Itā€™s been a month since my last dentist appt. Heā€™s a new dentist Russian I think and very curt. He wasnā€™t very receptive to my tongue having a sore on it and hurting for over 6 months. Saying it wasnā€™t cancer without testing it. I mean come on I use to be a cigarette smoker and worked in a bar for 15 years breathing in second hand smoke. Itā€™s not out of the realm of possibilities. I felt dismissed and not heard at my last appt. I also have a mechanical heart valve and I need to take antibiotics before a dentist appt. The dentist and the assistant missed that and if I hadnā€™t questioned things I wouldnā€™t of had them prescribed.

This definately is biting me on the a**. A long drug history and years not using opiates including methadone had me forgetting the damage caused by it. I mean I did have open heart surgery so thereā€™s that. But itā€™s been two years since and now losing my teeth. The repercussions of my opiate use really affected my health.

As Iā€™ve said many times Iā€™m older. Iā€™ve got extensive drug history but never really felt like a real drug addict inside. Yes I was using drugs but in my head I was okay. Just using a little and not as much as others. I was holding down a job and was beautiful. My smile and eyes lit up a room. I found opiates pill form early in life. I crushed my hand and was prescribed opiates for just about 2 years. I almost lost my hand. Anyway I think this helped to progress to heroin. I dibble dabbled with meth not methadone in the beginning after my opiate pills. I had always wanted to use heroin but never came across anyone who had it or was doing it.

Many many years have passed and finally Iā€™ve come across someone who can get me some heroin. Iā€™m about 38 at this point. My hand situation was when I was 20 so about 18 years passed. I did the heroin and it was love. I absolutely loved the way I felt. ā˜ ļø This was a deadly drug and I was hooked. Heroin was different than meth you couldnā€™t just sleep it off. I didnā€™t know when I started heroin that you become physically sick if you donā€™t have it everyday. Well anyways as heroin use progressed and I sought help from a methadone clinic.

Make no mistake I loved methadone and loved being on it. I felt better, didnā€™t hurt and had energy. The only reason I stopped methadone was because getting it prescribed was getting harder as my doctor moved, the second new doctor retired. Had I not been paranoid to get off of it a couple years earlier I wouldā€™ve been blindsided by my doctor retiring. I couldā€™ve went to a methadone clinic though and I could still be taking it. But the clinic is just like hanging around drug users just out of jail. Many are younger and hardened from being on the streets or doing time. The mentality isnā€™t one of healing either. I went to the clinic for about 8 months and then they closed their doors. So long story short I went back to heroin. This back and forth with heroin then methadone, occasionally Suboxone went on for over 10 years.

All the while that I was using my health and teeth werenā€™t my priorities. I had a beautiful smile and didnā€™t get into meth really. I was a weekend warrior before I quit totally. So I didnā€™t have meth teeth. But opiates I believe rot your teeth from the inside. You donā€™t realize the damage until itā€™s too late. I would like to state I had dental coverage and my mom paid for thousands in dental care too. So I had private care and paid in cash. I could get anything done and my mom would pay for it concerning my teeth. Iā€™m telling you this so you understand my teeth were collateral damage of using opiates. Even though I had cleanings, cavities filled, root canals, pulled teeth to maintain oral health my gums got diseased. Not one dentist and Iā€™m being serious told me about gum disease until it was well progressed. So even if your teeth are doing okay your gums can become diseased and then you lose your teeth. šŸ˜ž

I was gonna to go back to bed but maybe Iā€™ll stay up and enjoy having teeth. Seriously oh s*** Iā€™m crying Iā€™ll never have them anymore. Iā€™m not going to say itā€™s unfair because Iā€™ve been on opiates and used other drugs for many many years. All of this is on top of smoking cigarettes, weed, meth and cocaine. Smoking these drugs on aluminum foil using a plastic straw. So Iā€™ve got to accept responsibility for my actions. This has resulted in losing my teeth. Itā€™s really bringing up a lot in my past.

Iā€™ve scheduled a therapy session at 930 this morning to help me deal with loss of teeth. Also the dentist or dentists generally arenā€™t real sympathetic when youā€™re getting tooth extractions. So the lack of empathy from the dentist and the assistant is very depressing for me. There is grief and mourning involved. Iā€™m also taking anxiety medication this morning. Itā€™s prescribed to me but I rarely take it. Klonapin thatā€™s what Iā€™ll be taking today. Losing my teeth puts my drug use out there kind of. People judge you and know youā€™ve been on drugs. Enough drugs to rot your teeth. Iā€™m thankful my psychiatrist was able to see me today. Iā€™ve got a lot going on in my head.

I realize this is temporary. I mean Iā€™ll get partials to replace my teeth. Iā€™ll be able to smile without gaping holes. But itā€™s a long process. Perhaps 8 months to a year. I wonā€™t be going out much or participating in the holidays, birthdays or going out to eat. Thank my lucky stars that masks are a thing nowadays. Covertly I will don my mask and hide my toothless smile from everyone. But Iā€™m such an advocate for not wearing a mask. I think itā€™s ridiculous to wear a mask personally. But now I need to wear a mask for my ego I suppose so this is ironic. Iā€™m not so secure that I can just let it all hang out and smile without teeth. I mean as it is my hair has gray roots to my ears so a half brown half gray color. Plus itā€™s frizzy from the roots to the tips. Itā€™s thinning too so my hair is looking awful. Iā€™m growing out my bangs so I can just pin my hair back and wear it in a bun. The only other style would be to get a perm more frizz lol and get a poodle cut. So my hair is just awful and wont hold a curl. The heart medications and blood thinners really screw up my hair. Iā€™m worried about dying my hair because it breaks off easily. So I have no teeth, awful hair and donā€™t wear make up at all. Not any mascara, blush, foundation, bronzers, highlighters, lipstick etc etc. Iā€™ve never really liked the feeling of having make up on. I do borrow my daughters make up for a little hint of color about twice a year. Every time I regret it. I always get compliments too but canā€™t stand it. But since Iā€™m losing my teeth I might have to get my hair dyed and risk some of it breaking off. I will find some under eye concealer, a rosey powder blush, a light eye shadow nude, and a glossy lipstick. Or a Burt bees colored lipstick. I really have a hard time with mascara. I need to use water proof but my eyelashes always seem to fall out when use it. I will apply the war paint for going out in public with my mask. But I honestly hate the feeling of lotions too. So make up and moisturizerā€™s cause me to kinda sweat too. Which in turn causes me to use a paper towel for the sweat and then the make up comes off.

I also donā€™t like clothes really unless they are comfortable. Iā€™m an extra extra large and prefer leggings and tunic tops or tops that are longer. I donā€™t like to go clothes shopping at all either. So my clothes arenā€™t super trendy. I also wear Nikes or Birkenstocks. I want to get some more boggs rubber boots though I love the designs. Itā€™s a good brand. Sorry I got off topic. Iā€™m just kinda giving you an idea of what Iā€™m dealing with. I suppose the needed changes will hopefully make me feel more confident in public.

Another thing that will be affected is my voice. Because of the no thing and how your tongue works while speaking. So now Iā€™ll gave a speech impediment kind of. If I donā€™t put in my upper partial itā€™s hard to talk right. So I already deal with this. I also have a small voice saying that something will go wrong with my teeth and Iā€™ll end up having all my upper teeth taken out. Then Iā€™ll need a full denture. Oh I hope that doesnā€™t happen. My chin hurts because my gums have deteriorated so far down itā€™s affecting that. Iā€™m in pain. I donā€™t like this at all. My doctor prescribed me some lidocaine mouth rinse to help numb my tongue and mouth. But it just dulls it a little bit. Not much of a pain reliever. Currently enjoying a cup of Starbucks Carmel mocha special edition coffee (I drink mine black) and 2 pieces pumpkin spice toast from Costco. Itā€™s scrumptious.

I donā€™t drive and thereā€™s no one to take me at 1:00 so Iā€™m taking the bus. Itā€™s just one bus then I walk 5 blocks and voila Iā€™m there. Iā€™m hoping to get a ride home though. I donā€™t want to ask my mom because sheā€™s not real good at handling my losing my teeth. Sheā€™s very upset and in turn that upsets me. Sheā€™s not real nurturing in situations like this. So not sure if Iā€™ll end up having to take the bus home too. My mom goes to Palm Desert for the winter and comes back in may. So she wonā€™t be around while Iā€™m going through this. Sheā€™s very supportive of me though. Anything I want sheā€™ll buy me to help with my mental health. But Iā€™m not much of a materialistic person. I like candles, comfortable shoes, coffee, books and shows on history for the most part. I love British shows too. So thereā€™s not a lot I want. Iā€™m very content. Pretty even keeled but the no teeth thing has me rattled. She bought me EarPods yesterday which I appreciated. My daughter crunches her ice and it gets on my nerves sometimes and I need to have it gone lol.

Well itā€™s 5:00 now so my family will soon be getting up. Iā€™m gonna be tired today. I hear my daughters alarm going off. The animals are getting restless. I donā€™t feed them for another hour but they know itā€™s close. Iā€™m gonna go. The next time I post Iā€™ll be without my bottom front teeth. šŸ˜· Iā€™ll be wearing a mask for awhile lol.

Overfifty55






Posted: October 14, 2022, 8:56 AM
Good morning āœŒļø

Well I got my two front bottom teeth extracted. It all went well at the dentist. Despite not being numb enough on his first attempt after more medicine it was numb enough. I had taken klonapin an hour before my appt so Iā€™d be calmer and not have as much anxiety. It worked. I felt floaty and calm. The klonapin is prescribed for me.

I didnā€™t suffer from any speech impediments so I can still talk normally. In fact Iā€™ve been rather a chatter box lately. Diarrhea of the mouth. Lol. I really was stressed about getting my teeth pulled and I was overwhelmed and sad. Very depressed. Afterwards when it was over I was exhausted from the anxiety.

I had a psychiatrist appt a couple hours before my appt which was very beneficial to me. Iā€™m going to do this again. It centered me.

I donā€™t think Iā€™m getting any more teeth pulled on the bottom front. Itā€™s an easy fix with a partial. Iā€™m concentrating on the positive. šŸ˜„šŸŽƒšŸ‘»

Iā€™m also not on methadone anymore and I can have down time and not have to worry about getting well everyday. These are positive affirmations that I tell myself. This has only happened lately with my mouth problems.

Well Iā€™ve been waiting on a call from a specialist for the sore on my tongue. My doctor was suppose to send a referral and I would hear back in seven days at the latest. Well I havenā€™t heard anything. So Iā€™m going to have to call my doctor and ask whatā€™s going on with it. The assistant is young with an attitude over the phone. Lol In person she just leaves the room when sheā€™s done with vitals. Itā€™s stressful for me dealing with this behavior.

All in all Iā€™m doing very well with my new toothless smile. I have to keep a sense of humor. Laughter is the best medicine.

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Overfifty55






Posted: October 17, 2022, 6:02 AM
Good morning:)

Well my dentist appt all happened Wednesday so 6 days ago I had my two bottom teeth pulled. That needle went in and he pushed that numbing medicine so fast it was burning. It brought back memories of using heroin. You shouldnā€™t feel anything and if it burns youā€™ve missed the vein or your getting an abscess soon. I donā€™t miss those days at all. Had I not found methadone I know I would be dabbling probably in fentanyl by now. Iā€™m not sure how many years Iā€™ve got cause I donā€™t count my days but enough to really feel at peace without even methadone. Thatā€™s something really cool to me.

So anyways my teeth are gone and Iā€™m doing really well. I donā€™t have a speech impediment šŸ˜„ either. Iā€™m not even concerned with going out and talking. Iā€™m pretty proud of my resilience. Iā€™d consider myself a strong woman. I also donā€™t follow along blindly because everyone else does. Im a thinker and researcher too. If I donā€™t agree I find out why I donā€™t. Am I being unreasonable or a nutball? No and I wish more people would do the same. Donā€™t follow along blindly with anything. Do your research.

I read something that bothered me. Basically saying to not help someone because they need to hit their bottom to change. Iā€™ve had lows and when I thought things couldnā€™t get worse they did. Had I not received help which is a human thing to do Iā€™d be self medicating still. When I say itā€™s a human thing I really mean itā€™s a logical response to someone hurting. I donā€™t approve of or believe in the tough love approach. Itā€™s not love unless you believe treating someone unkind to manipulate them is cool. I certainly donā€™t. Oh and personally if you think Iā€™m being argumentative itā€™s because I donā€™t think like you.

The world is complex and not so tidy. People are the same way. Iā€™m more skeptical of someone having it all together than being a little unraveled. Iā€™m kinda going sideways on my post. Maybe I need a cup of coffee. Iā€™ve been up for a couple hours now just sipping water. I love our water. Crisp, cold and a fantastic šŸ‘… taste.

I never received a call about seeing a specialist for my tongue. Itā€™s been over a week. Iā€™m dreading calling my doctors office and asking whatā€™s happening with that. I talked to my psychiatrist about this and he said healthcare is struggling and will probably get worse. People just donā€™t care like they use too. When you went to the doctors the nurses were nice and usually comforting. They were on the ball and had studied your chart so they knew you. Not anymore. Iā€™m getting sideways againā€¦sorry

I need to go cause I feel Iā€™m ranting and that really wasnā€™t my intention. I was just posting how proud I am of myself during this time of losing teeth. I also think I would benefit greatly from going to a denture dentist. Someone whose whole practice is giving people teeth to smile. Money isnā€™t a deterrent either. So thatā€™s something else I came up with for myself.

Iā€™ve not been doing my art therapy for sometime. I like coloring in books, painting rocks and collages. I like or would like to make little collages. Mini ones and laminate some. Iā€™m not good at freehand but enjoy coloring mandalas. I absolutely love flowers and birds. I made arrangements to paint rocks with my mom and sister. My mom is headed south for the winter as usual so we wanted to get together before that. Art is therapy for me. Put on some music and NO COUNTRY music unless itā€™s Patsy Cline or similar. I like the old stuff.

Well Iā€™m still sipping water itā€™s almost 3:00 and my eyes are getting heavier. Iā€™m gonna try going back to bed. āœŒļøšŸ’ƒšŸ¼šŸ’ƒšŸ¼šŸ’ƒšŸ¼šŸ‘»šŸŽƒ

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