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Help With Clean Addicts Rage


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Posted: October 18, 2016, 10:39 AM
Hi there,

I am involved with a man 9 years my senior. He was using meth when we met and has a long history of drug use, 20 years. We got together, but he was using, so I told him we couldn't be together unless he was clean, and I moved back home. 10 days later he begged me to move back, saying he knew what he wanted, and it was me, not the drugs. He has been clean for two months since then.

My problem is that he has so much anger and hatred in him. When anything upsets him he lashes out at me, or completely shuts me out. I don't know how to deal with it, and I'm hoping there is something I can do to calm his rage... I can't tiptoe around him forever...

This is my last resort before I leave for good. I pray that he will stay clean if I leave, but I doubt...

I am 3 years sober AA member, so I understand the phases, just no idea what to do, and I'm tired of being hurt...

Please help...


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Posted: October 18, 2016, 1:45 PM
Ya know...I just don't know what to say to this. ..your an AA for three years and you know the phases ? ...Then you must know that detox though a thousand nightmares doesn't even come close to what it feels like the first 6 months to a year...not using. ..especially if he has...like me...long years of drug abuse...there's no way in hell my spouse would let me back in that quick...does he go to his own meetings? ...have a sponsor ?...working a program ?...got any support ? ....you know better. ..he needs to figure out how to live first...maybe PapaBear can figure this one...im still working on learning how to live without smack...and getting home..because my spouse isn't even AA...and knows better

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Posted: October 18, 2016, 2:34 PM
Hi - I'm going to be blunt, because I am tired.

just about all of us would say - Why did you go back to him, Why do you want this life?

You stated: My problem is that he has so much anger and hatred in him.

This is NOT YOUR Problem. It is his.

Start separating what is your problem and what is his.

Your problem is staying true to yourself. Putting on the breaks and not letting someone else's problem be yours. Life is hard enough. YOU have choices.

When successful people get to a certain place in life - it looks easy.
But it is not easy. It has taken you 3 years to get where you are. Do you want someone else to unravel all that YOU have worked for.?






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Posted: October 18, 2016, 7:57 PM
I have to agree with the last two posts. I think you've come too far to let someone spoil your happiness. Life is too short to settle for less than you deserve and I think you deserve more!! Good luck. Mary🌻


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Posted: October 19, 2016, 3:28 AM
Well like I said, I am just about to leave, just wanted to be there to support him through the hard times... but clearly that seems to be a mistake... does no one believe in standing by the ones you love anymore?


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Posted: October 19, 2016, 6:35 AM
Hi T,

How much do you know about codependency? I hear a lot of addicts realise they have that new problem when the drugging is under control. I took a while, more precisely years to finally get this codependency of mine, I see a lot of people on here struggle to get it too, and then putting in practice what you learn is the next difficulty.

I think you will find that if you engage in his behaviour it becomes your problem and perhaps that the fear of what will happen to him if you leave is something to work on, because it keeps us stuck in unhealthy patterns.

So if you are not here for the obvious and arrogant "leave him", because if you are like me you have considered and planned that every day of crises, perhaps understanding codependency will be a good start.

Reading this board is very helpful, I just skip the step 2s practising step 12 kind of posts and try not to get hooked on the board as well. Have you considered checking Naranon out?



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Posted: October 19, 2016, 7:30 AM
Yes, T, I believe in supporting my loved ones. . .I believe in unconditional love . . .I believe in forgiving and giving even more. But you know what??? I'm not going to do any of that if it is to my detriment. If it is hurting me. If it's not good for me. It sounds like he is using you as his punching bag. . .whether verbally, emotionally or physically. This can't be good for your sobriety. . .no less for you as a person. . .no human being should be abused. Why are you putting up with this?

What more are you SUPPOSED to do? What else do you have to give? The answer to both questions is nothing. . .because this is HIS journey.

Consider telling him the truth. . . that you can't deal with his rages. That he needs to work on his rages by himself. . .that he needs to work on his sobriety by himself . . . and when he is in control and a nice person, give you a call. Then pack your stuff and leave. . .and don't look back. But find a therapist to help you heal your heart . . .and build a stronger sense of you.

Lord knows you need a hug. . .here's a BIG one!!!!

Good luck, sweetie!
Lynn
xoxo



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Posted: October 19, 2016, 8:33 AM

"I am 3 years sober AA member, so I understand the phases, just no idea what to do, and I'm tired of being hurt..."

What does your AA sponsor and the oldtimers in your group suggest ??



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